Big list of Jnats!

[Asteger]

Christmas time if you're in the market for Jnats. Quite a lot available but only for a short time - literally a few days - as I'm about to move. Many are really bargain-priced but if some don't sell I'm unlikely to offer them again. If they all do, then I'll need to start a new collection. All stones are good, prices generally far below what I paid.

Also looking to sell several items together so please have a look at my other BST threads just posted today too:

Knives (http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/30461-4-(or-5-)-knives-Fujiwara-Kato-Shigehiro-Takeda-Itinomon-(Munetoshi)?p=456457#post456457)
Nagura (http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/30464-Nagura-various-including-6-piece-set?p=456460#post456460)
Iwasaki kamisori set (http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/30466-Iwasaki-Kamisori-set-(razor-case-stone)?p=456469#post456469)
Ebony wa-handle (http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/30467-Large-ebony-wa-handle?p=456470#post456470)

You'll have to ask me about shipping. Will of course make deals if for multiple stones/knives/etc.

Sorry, too many listings to do photos and write ups of at the moment, so those will come. Note that I'll only sell some things (marked with an *) if you're buying something else, but these things are worth it if you are. Generally all are cashew-lacquered. The list:

Coarser stones:

1) Gold Omura (from Wakayama) - 218x102x65mm - 3392g - $80
2) Omura (from Kyushu, vintage) - 232x90x73mm - 3243g - $180
3) Sasaguchi - 215x83x70mm - 3102g - $180

Medium stones:

4) Aizu (large koppa-sized) - 165x61x34mm - 729g - $100
5) Aizu (awasedo-sized) - 192x65x37mm - 1023g - $120
6) Aizu2 - 197x71x53mm - 1659g - $160
7) Aizu3 - 200x72x55mm - 1683g - $110
8) Toratogi (‘White Tiger’) Amakusa – 217x68x58mm - 2117g - $40*
9) White Amakusa (vintage binsui) - 217x61x57mm - 1843g - $60*
10) Aoto A - 210x67x64mm - 1943g - $200
11) Aoto B - 182x78x45mm - 1720g - $100
12) Red aoto (JNS) 204x75x34mm - 1147g - $200
13) Sukegawa Aoto* - 204x60x43mm - 1370g - $50
14) Vintage Iyo - 218x63x58mm - 1901g - $180
15) Iyo - 170x80x61mm - 1882g - $90
16) Kaisei (massive) - 220x95x60mm - 2815g - $170
17) Hyotan Numata - 197x68x56mm - $150
18) Aka-Monzen (red Monzen) - 211x64x63 - 1745g - $150
19) Natsuya - 205x78x63g - 2278g - $170
20) Striped Natsuya - 207x78x63 - 2397g - $220
21) Saeki (black) - 222x71x57mm - 1861g - $250
22) Saeki (brown) - 234x81x51mm - 1982g - $100
23) Tsunemi Teratogi - 197x62x52mm - 1370g - $180
24) Ueno - 199x71x51 - 1781g - $100

Awasedo:

25) Ohira (harder) - 207x77x36mm - 1447g - $220
26) Ohira (normal) - 202x73x25mm 982g - $150
27) Ohira (softer) - 202x73x28 - 1014g - $280
28) Ohira renge suita (larger) - 209x78x41 - 1701g - $550
29) Ohira renge suita (normal) - 208x75x23mm - 903g - $260
30) Ozuku - 195x70x23mm - 807g - $330
31) Shinden - 208x78x37mm - 1508g - $200
32) Shinden suita - 210x78x36mm - 1520g - $550
33) Shobu iromono - 204x75x35mm - 1196g - $400
34) Shobu iromono (softer) - 203x73x32mm - 1094g - $230
35) Shobu iromono - 206x75x36mm - 1364g - $230
36) Shobu (vintage, small) - 700g - $130

 

[YG420]

Pm sent

 

[Marek07]

PM sent.

 

[Asteger]

Just got double digits in PMs within a few minutes, so thanks for all this so far! Have to go offline for a while but will return and take care of the details. Will try to follow the order of requests, but please PM rather than post if you'd like something so that it doesn't get too complicated. Posted questions are fine. Thanks

 

[TheCaptain]

PM sent...

 

[TheCaptain]

PM sent...

 

[foody518]

PM sent :O

 

[Asteger]

Just a message to the many who've sent PMs - lots - that I've kept track of everything and will be answering in order. Some sold already, some SPF, and some still available. Thanks for the many messages to far.

 

[Asteger]

Hope he doesn't mind, but Enzo's PM box is full and so I'll post my response to him here:

I was wondering if you could recommend one of your jnats for razor finishing. ...
Enzo

... There are 2 that I think of, the #25 harder Ohira ($220) and Ozuku ($330).

Both are very nice. The Ohira is a good deal, and I picked this one up myself after trying about 12 others at Imanishi's in Kyoto, before Imanishi said wait and went to a back room and came back with this, saying 'I like this stone'. It's larger and cheaper than the Ozuku. Sorry no picture at the moment, but can arrange.

The Ozuku has a good background too. Maybe you know TomoNagura.com? When Keith was setting up his site I bought this Ozuku from him. Just checking the site, he still has the picture here but he's unfortunately taken down the description (too many people would ask about it, he said). If I can remember, he thought this was a great razor finisher, great feel and slurry, decent speed but not fast, and so I'll use his words. Ozuku are supposed to be top razor stones, aren't they? I have only the stone, not the nagura in the photo:

 

[Asteger]

Whoops, looks like the photo link didn't work. Try this:

(Got permission for this a while ago)

 

[Asteger]

Whoa, lots of work but thanks to all so far. Aside from messing up a few of the early PMs (sorry again) I've been following my messages in order here and on the other threads. Update: here are the stones still available and also the sold-pending-funds SPF stones in italics

Coarser stones:

1) Gold Omura (from Wakayama) - 218x102x65mm - 3392g - $80

Medium stones:

4) Aizu (large koppa-sized) - 165x61x34mm - 729g - $100
5) Aizu (awasedo-sized) - 192x65x37mm - 1023g - $120
6) Aizu2 - 197x71x53mm - 1659g - $160
7) Aizu3 - 200x72x55mm - 1683g - $110
8) Toratogi (‘White Tiger’) Amakusa – 217x68x58mm - 2117g - $40*
9) White Amakusa (vintage binsui) - 217x61x57mm - 1843g - $60*
11) Aoto B - 182x78x45mm - 1720g - $100
13) Sukegawa Aoto* - 204x60x43mm - 1370g - $50
14) Vintage Iyo - 218x63x58mm - 1901g - $180
15) Iyo - 170x80x61mm - 1882g - $90
16) Kaisei (massive) - 220x95x60mm - 2815g - $170
18) Aka-Monzen (red Monzen) - 211x64x63 - 1745g - $150
19) Natsuya - 205x78x63g - 2278g - $170
20) Striped Natsuya - 207x78x63 - 2397g - $220
22) Saeki (brown) - 234x81x51mm - 1982g - $100
24) Ueno - 199x71x51 - 1781g - $100

Awasedo:

25) Ohira (harder) - 207x77x36mm - 1447g - $220
26) Ohira (normal) - 202x73x25mm 982g - $150
27) Ohira (softer) - 202x73x28 - 1014g - $280
29) Ohira renge suita (normal) - 208x75x23mm - 903g - $260
30) Ozuku - 195x70x23mm - 807g - $330
31) Shinden - 208x78x37mm - 1508g - $200
33) Shobu iromono - 204x75x35mm - 1196g - $400
34) Shobu iromono (softer) - 203x73x32mm - 1094g - $230
35) Shobu iromono - 206x75x36mm - 1364g - $230
36) Shobu (vintage, small) - 700g - $130

 

[Marcelo Amaral]

Hi Gerrard,

tried sending you a PM, but it looks like your are full. I'll take the vintage Iyo if that's still available.

 

[chinacats]

Greets, I too tried to send a pm, touch base when you get a chance...interested in aizu.

 

[Marek07]

Ger
Inbox still full.

 

[Asteger]

Sorry guys. Work and sleep took hold and I didn't notice the box was full, but just cleared it. The posts above are noted along with all received PMs from earlier. By now I've got back at least once to everyone who's PM'd already, but have some follow up to do while also waiting for people to respond to my responses.

In the mean time, thanks to everyone again. Just went through a bunch of stones and got them ready for packing. Some need drying for a day or so, which is safer for shipping. Will let everyone know shipping details when things go out.

 

[Asteger]

Update:

These stones are still available, all good ones. Many are SPF and are in italics. The list is much shorter now (but 2 possible new additions to come; see below).

Coarser stones:

1) Gold Omura (from Wakayama) - 218x102x65mm - 3392g - $80

Medium stones:

4) Aizu (large koppa-sized) - 165x61x34mm - 729g - $100
15) Iyo - 170x80x61mm - 1882g - $90
16) Kaisei (massive) - 220x95x60mm - 2815g - $170
19) Natsuya - 205x78x63g - 2278g - $170
20) Striped Natsuya - 207x78x63 - 2397g - $220
24) Ueno - 199x71x51 - 1781g - $100

Awasedo:

26) Ohira (normal) - 202x73x25mm 982g - $150
30) Ozuku kiita - 195x70x23mm - 807g - $330
33) Shobu kiita - 204x75x35mm - 1196g - $400 (note: yes, kiita and not 'iromono' as previously said)
34) Shobu iromono (softer) - 203x73x32mm - 1094g - $230
36) Shobu iromono (vintage, small) - 700g - $130[/QUOTE]

I think I might be adding a couple more, too. Details not ready yet but are: a full-size collector's piece uchigumori (type 24) and a vintage 'motoyama' kiita finisher

 

[Asteger]

Late new additions to the sale list:

37) Narutaki awasedo - 202x73x25mm - 982g - $140
38) Vintage kiita 'Motoyama' finisher - 194x72x23mm - 816g - $120
39) Uchigumori (rare, huge, full-sized type-24 collector's piece) - 214x80x58mm - 2256g - $480

 

[seryk20]

Pm sent for uchigumori

 

[Asteger]

New list of what's available, with SPF stones in italics.

Coarser stones:

1) Gold Omura (from Wakayama) - 218x102x65mm - 3392g - $80

Medium stones:

4) Aizu (large koppa-sized) - 165x61x34mm - 729g - $100
15) Iyo - 170x80x61mm - 1882g - $90
16) Kaisei (massive) - 220x95x60mm - 2815g - $170
19) Natsuya - 205x78x63g - 2278g - $170
20) Striped Natsuya - 207x78x63 - 2397g - $220
24) Ueno - 199x71x51 - 1781g - $100

Awasedo:

33) Shobu kiita - 204x75x35mm - 1196g - $400
34) Shobu iromono (softer) - 203x73x32mm - 1094g - $230
36) Shobu iromono (vintage, small) - 700g - $130
37) Narutaki awasedo - 202x73x25mm - 982g - $140
38) Vintage kiita 'Motoyama' finisher - 194x72x23mm - 816g - $120
39) Uchigumori (rare, huge, full-sized type-24 collector's piece) - 214x80x58mm - 2256g - $480[/QUOTE]

 

[Asteger]

As said when I began on Mon or Tues, because of a move I'm only able to work on the sales for a few days and so will need to stop things in the next 24 hours. Be warned! Here are photos of some stones from the still-available the list above:

15) Iyo - 170x80x61mm - 1882g - $90. Lacks a bit of length, but otherwise a big, wide, hefty and solid stone.

16) Kaisei (massive) - 220x95x60mm - 2815g - $170. Rare stone in the vein of Ikarashi and Aizu. Polish your katana

20) Striped Natsuya - 207x78x63 - 2397g - *Price down to $200*

24) Ueno - 199x71x51 - 1781g - $100. Uncommon medium stone. Nice slurry and good feel. Pre-polisher

33) Shobu kiita - 204x75x35mm - 1196g - $400. Doesn't really need explanation. Using Aframes photos here, which is where it came from.

36) Shobu iromono vintage - 184x64x25mm - 700g - $130. A little smaller than normal, but nice price for the quality.

37) Narutaki - 202x73x25mm - 982g - $140. Straight ahead awasedo

38) Vintage kiita 'Motoyama' finisher - 194x72x23mm - 816g - $120. (Dark bit on top is not normal colour. Darker stone just rubbed against it.)

39) Uchigumori (rare, huge, full-sized type-24 collector's piece) - 214x80x58mm - 2256g - $480

 

[Asteger]

Shiupo - your PM box is full

 

[foody518]

Does the Kaisei behave similarly to Ikarashi or Aizu? Is it only mainly worth using it within the sword polishing sequence?

 

[Asteger]

Does the Kaisei behave similarly to Ikarashi or Aizu? Is it only mainly worth using it within the sword polishing sequence?

Yes, it does, though I don't polish swords. From what I know, for the polishers the Aizu was considered a substitute for Kaisei and Ikarashi as a substitute for Aizu. That might not have been everywhere, though, as all 3 are from the eastern (for me northern, but they'll say eastern) part of Honshu, and I think lots of this stuff was localised. You might have heard more about this stone, but I think there are few available and so you don't. Anyway, I like all 3.

 

[Asteger]

Does the Kaisei behave similarly to Ikarashi or Aizu? Is it only mainly worth using it within the sword polishing sequence?

Yes, similar. Sword-wise, I've read that Aizu were considered a substitute for Kaisei, and Ikarashi for Aizu. (May not have been everywhere, as these three stones are all from eastern Honshu, and I think stones had a more local reputation in ages past.) I like all three, have another Kaisei, and have had a few Ikarashi (but no longer). Aizu generally click with me best, however.

 

[Asteger]

I forgot to list the size of this stone previously, but had a few questions about it:

36) Shobu iromono vintage - 184x64x25mm - 700g - $130. A little smaller than normal, but nice price for the quality. Picture above

 

[chinacats]

What exactly is an Iyo? Feel, finish, edge, etc.?

 

[Asteger]

Iyo - that's the name of the stone, or Iyoto, from Shikoku somewhere (Ehime is the old name, I think). Stone with a big history, and supposedly the oldest 'known' stone mined well before all the Kyoto ones. There are different types I'm not really familiar with - 330mate seems to sell all kinds, but I don't know how good they are. The white ones were the binsui of yesteryear, but now that name is associated with the Amakusa whites. (Similar to Omura stones, once from Kyushu and exhausted I think, and so now the name's given to kishu stones from Wakayama.)

The remaining one is nice wide and solid. It is hard and dense and the feel is okay, will get going on wide bevels and leaves a finish below 1k somewhere but isn't coarse. It's non-porous so keeps a little bit of water well on the surface, and stones like this are good for use with some kind of slurry stone which would also add a little more abrasion. I have an Iyo nagura that would go well with this, for eg, but it's already on its way to Brazil.

 

[Asteger]

This is what's left and will only be able to sell for the next few hours, so let me know asap if anyone would like something more. Most likely will be able to do some kind of discount/deal:

Medium stones:

15) Iyo - 170x80x61mm - 1882g - *$70*
24) Ueno - 199x71x51 - 1781g - $100

Awasedo:

34) Shobu iromono (softer) - 203x73x32mm - 1094g - $230
37) Narutaki awasedo - 202x73x25mm - 982g - $140
38) Vintage kiita 'Motoyama' finisher - 194x72x23mm - 816g - $120

 

[Asteger]

Po, please make some room in your inbox again

 

[Asteger]

Last few hours for me to sell. Only 15, 34, 37 and 38 are left.

Some explanations in case any of these may still appeal to someone.

15) Iyo - had a question above about these and gave an answer. Also a photo of this one if you'd like to look.

34) Shobu - this one I should have listed as tamago, because of its yellow highlights, rather than iromono. It's on the softer side, say Lv3, and is similar to a Takashima which knife sharpeners often like. Easy to use stone, fine but not too fine, and a nice solid clean specimen. *Discounting now* as I'm keeping the expensive Shobu previously listed. $210 and would cost a lot more through the usual channels. 3 photos:

37) Narutaki - honest, good awasedo without the frills. Clean hardness around Lv3.5. There are 1 or 2 photos above already.

38) kiita - also already 2 photos above. This is an attractive kiita (yellowish in this case) awasedo with a vintage cut. Not that fine but on the hard side maybe around Lv4. Paid a lot more for it than the offering price