SOLD Big Tsuhima Nagura

[kedrikec]

Hello,

Up for sale is a Tsuhima Nagura. I have purchased this several years ago from JNS. I was planning on using it for my woodworking tools then, I ended up using something different.

It is quite large and all lacquered.

212mm x 85 mm x 52mm
$245.

Please see the photos.

cheers,

 

[Hassanbensober]

Curious what’s the weight of the stone? Could you post a photo of the whole stone for scale?
Thanks

 

[refcast]

Mine's about that size and like 2kg. I got mine from Iida tool, and it had the same wrapping as this stone. . . same neat folds at the ends.

Supposedly, they are fairly similar stone to stone. . .

Quite hard, strong bond strengh, full of grit, dense. Lower cutting speed, but super duper slow dishing. Using less water and use of a diamond plate speeds up cutting. No inclusions. . .at least I've never ever seen one with them sold. The grit breaks down. . . it's like a very fine aoto. . . but different. Having bought a very fine aoto . . . the tsushima slurries a bit less and grit and mud feels a bit different. . . maybe a little coarser and sharper. At least the surface feels a bit more aggresive. . .

I think the newer ones (relatively speaking) have this paper wrapping as here, but I'm not sure.

During processing, they were de-salted before use, if they came from the ocean. I've seen maybe one that was stated that it came from the mountain.

 

[Rangen]

I really like my big Tsushima. My soft Aotos languish in a cabinet, because they are so muddy, and so much less fun than the slightly slick, much less muddy, slightly finer Tsushima to sharpen on.

 

[refcast]

Here's what morihei says about tsushima
https://morihei.exblog.jp/15896570/

 

[ReiHamono]

Most people don’t use this stone correctly, they are supposed to be soaked for a very very long time as they are a nagura.

The more you soak it the softer it will get

It’s only hard when people have not soaked the stone correctly

Before soaking the stone was hard, it would burnish a lot, it was difficult to use, but after soaking it changed dramatically

Naguras need a lot! of water to work properly and that’s why togishi soak them

 

[Rangen]

Ooh! I have to try soaking. It's hard to imagine my liking my Tsushima more than I do now, but this just might do it.

 

[ReiHamono]

It just depends on whether or not you want it softer, if it’s not releasing mud well enough you simply soak it more and it will keep improving and becoming easier and easier to use

I see a lot of people on this forum who badmouth the Tsushima simply because they don’t know how to use it correctly, but it’s an incredibly great stone when used intelligently, especially considering how incredibly cheap it is

Anytime somebody soaks a stone it’s important to make sure that it’s properly sealed in order to maintain its integrity

 

[refcast]

I've used them both soaked and unsoaked. .

I don't remember soaking them changing much, but I might try again. I kept mine soaked for a couple months or so, before I just stored it normally.

 

[ReiHamono]

Take a look at the pictures I attached, everyone’s Tsushima should release mud like that, if it’s not releasing mud like that then it’s moisture content is very likely too low

My Tsushima was very disappointing and difficult to use at first, however I noticed the more soaking time it had the better it performed

The same goes for mikawa naguras, most people want them buy them and end up selling them very quickly because they don’t know how to use them correctly. They need a lot of water to perform properly and polish out easily

 

[kedrikec]

Hi! Thank you all for all the information!
I think the stone is around 5 lbs ish (don't have a scale!)

 

[Froztitanz]

It just depends on whether or not you want it softer, if it’s not releasing mud well enough you simply soak it more and it will keep improving and becoming easier and easier to use

I see a lot of people on this forum who badmouth the Tsushima simply because they don’t know how to use it correctly, but it’s an incredibly great stone when used intelligently, especially considering how incredibly cheap it is

Anytime somebody soaks a stone it’s important to make sure that it’s properly sealed in order to maintain its integrity

Hi Eric, interesting point about people badmouthing the tsushima. Seeing as you seem to be more knowledgeable, can you show us a clean and good bevel polish from the correct use of the tsushima nagura? I would love to see what I'm missing out on. It would be able to educate myself as well as other KKF-ers on what we are missing out on.

 

[ReiHamono]

Hi Jonathan

I’m not sure if you read my post all the way through, as it only pertains to the soaking of the stone and increasing the softness of the stone thus increasing the amount of mud it releases and so it will increase its cutting ability as opposed to it burnishing as you can see in my photos

It’s very interesting because I’ve heard so many different stories from so many different people on the performance of Tsushima. As stated my Tsushima was incredibly hard at first and would not release much mud, however that changed with soaking

I will make sure and post a review as I made sure to wait almost one year before making my judgement on the stone and trying to understand the performance differences when the stone is so well know to be so incredibly consistent from stone to stone.

It would be really great if yourself and other members with such knowledge experience and expansive stone collections would post some new extensive testing and some kind of a quantifiable information on those stones. Seems like a missed opportunity don’t you think?

Thank you
Eric

 

[Froztitanz]

I've got my own views on the topic and not derail the OP's post.. Let's move away from the discussion on this thread and start a new thread on tsushima naguras if you wish to debate further.

 

[kedrikec]

Curious what’s the weight of the stone? Could you post a photo of the whole stone for scale?
Thanks

Hello, I am traveling I'll be back next week and I will post it!

but it is very similar to this one;

https://www.japanesenaturalstones.com/big-tsushima-nagura/?setCurrencyId=3

 

[kedrikec]

Curious what’s the weight of the stone? Could you post a photo of the whole stone for scale?
Thanks

Hello,I am back, the photos are attached.(coin is a quarter)

 

[ReiHamono]

I’m surprised no one has bought this yet

 

[kedrikec]

bump $195

 

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[kedrikec]

bump of the week!

 

[kedrikec]

The last bump $165

 

[kedrikec]

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[Jurrian]

Ill buy this one plz! Bumped 2 times, let’s agree on 125 and agree on the shipping.

 

[kedrikec]

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[kedrikec]

thank you kkf

 

[ReiHamono]

Great purchase