BST Pet Peeves …

[Brian Weekley]

A member posts a WTB for a near new in box, out of production knife. I respond with a spare knife from my collection and am offered significantly less than the two year old price of the out of production knife. When I decline the low ball offer the OP gets all pissy that I won’t sell for a price significantly lower than I paid for the knife two or three years ago. Sheesh!

What’s your BST pet peeve?

 

[Bico Doce]

A member posts a WTB

I swear this is where 99% of BST weirdness stems from. Typically the OP has unrealistic expectations, such as demonstrated in this case. Of course this could the other way with people offering up knives at ridiculous prices.

Still either way I have never understood people getting upset when a suggested price doesn’t meet their valuation. Just accept it and move on. No need for a lame passive aggressive “GLWS!”.

If I say I value my knife at $xxx don’t argue with me as to why I am wrong and how you saw that knife available for less. Just go and buy that knife elsewhere.

 

[WildBoar]

My pet peeve is people continuously post knives I like -- but don't need -- for sale. This leads me to continue to accumulate knives even though I repeatedly tell myself I do not need to buy any more knives.

 

[tag98]

My pet peeve is people continuously post knives I like -- but don't need -- for sale. This leads me to continue to accumulate knives even though I repeatedly tell myself I do not need to buy any more knives.

I would say thats the real problem with bst, ive easily bought ten plus knives in the past year between bst and you lot being bad influences, that said i know some people have even crazier collections

 

[Barmoley]

My pet peeve is people continuously post knives I like -- but don't need -- for sale. This leads me to continue to accumulate knives even though I repeatedly tell myself I do not need to buy any more knives.

The problem here is the faulty assumption that need has anything to do with it. You don't need more knives or any fancy knives. You need a knife or a few, but that need can be covered with $100 max for multiple knives.

The problem is, as I see it, quiet different. It is not enough money to spend on knives you don't need, but want. I have this same problem.

A member posts a WTB for a near new in box, out of production knife. I respond with a spare knife from my collection and am offered significantly less than the two year old price of the out of production knife. When I decline the low ball offer the OP gets all pissy that I won’t sell for a price significantly lower than I paid for the knife two or three years ago. Sheesh!

What’s your BST pet peeve?

Yeah, this is weird. When you post a WTB, you have to expect the seller contacting you setting the price. Why get upset if the price is not what you expect, especially on something not sold anymore and at an original price of few years back when prices were in general lower than today. Sounds like a case of unrealistic expectations.

My pet peeve is missing out on a buy because I ask more questions about the knife. If the seller and I are talking, to me that means the discussion is in progress and if in the meantime someone just say "I'll take it" the seller should tell me "hey, someone else is interested do you want to buy?" I understand the seller might be afraid on missing out on the sale, but if we are talking to me this means I am interested in buying and a heads up would be nice. Not just selling to someone else and telling me, "Oh, someone else got it while we were in a discussion".

 

[Heckel7302]

My biggest annoyance is that I'm never fast enough to take advantage of @SolidSnake03 's crazy deals.

 

[superworrier]

People saying they paid X dollars for a knife when they actually paid X CAD and their listing price is in USD. I have no idea if it's a mistake or not. Also people misrepresenting the retail price in general. I have no issue with selling above retail at all but you shouldn't lie about it.

 

[BillHanna]

My biggest annoyance is that I'm never fast enough to take advantage of @SolidSnake03 's crazy deals.

I wish i was GOOD enough for refcast's deals.

 

[HumbleHomeCook]

I wish i was GOOD enough for refcast's deals.

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I know. I feel like I should buy the stone but ask him to keep it there and then pay him to sharpen/polish my knives on my stone at his house.

 

[JayS20]

Getting angry about potential seller not requesting lowball offer is just weird and dumb.

While you don't have to sell to the first person responding, it's courtesy to do so unless you have a bad gut feeling or something like this. If the seller doesn't provide all the needed information I'm gonna ask about it too. To just sell to another person who doesn't ask is a bit annoying and can lead to bad pratices in BST imo. BST shouldn't be a one-way street, both parties should be happy with the deal. That's how I see and do it at least.

My pet peeve is ghosting. Like with my last sale. I had another term of condition and was directly upfront about everything and asked if that was okay. The first one who responded with "I'll take it", never said yes that's fine or no sorry. Just simply no reply. I told the next interested person, another person has dibs on it but if it falls through will get back to him. I had like 3 nos and two ghostings until the final party bought it. It went perfectly smooth. Told him I can only send it in a week when I'm off work again and will notify him with tracking numbers and everything. I properly packaged it to be super safe and kept him up to date. In the end we were both happy with the transaction.

 

[timebard]

Trades are kinda the wild west of BST, and maybe I'm off-base here, but...

If I offer a trade with a trade value based on the sticker price for a rare/hard-to-find knife, don't come back with a marked-up trade value based on the market price of a similarly rare knife, or the sticker price of a knife I could just order new from a vendor.

For example, I'm not going to trade a Kaiju for a stock Denka on equal terms, even if they both cost $600 new, because I could order a Denka direct tomorrow. And similarly, maybe I'm willing to trade a Kaiju for, I dunno, a Xerxes - but if you set the Xerxes trade value 50% over what you paid because that's the "market value," that's whack.

(To be clear - I don't have a Kaiju, don't PM me trying to get one!)

 

[McMan]

Am I right that BST has gotten a little weirder in the past year?

 

[noj]

I would prefer sellers who only accept methods of payment other than paypal specify that fact along with their acceptable payment method(s) in the original listing. By the time I have researched some unknown (to me) payment method, signed up for it (if even possible at my bank), and gotten back to a seller, it's probably been sold. If people are generally moving away from paypal, it would provide insight on the extent, along with accepted payment methods.

 

[Ruso]

Region lock.

 

[bahamaroot]

People who sell rare knives without offering them to me first.

 

[agp]

"just trying to get back what I paid"

 

[tag98]

Region lock.

Conus only leads to such disappointment sometimes, I understand shipping will cost more and I’m happy to cover it, I understand duties may occur and that would be my problem not theirs, I really don’t get it personally

 

[ethompson]

I’ve honestly become less and less annoyed by the quirks of BST over the years. Short of the rare people, who usually get banned, who are engaging in deliberately misleading sales posts or clearly buying up hard to find knives with the hope of quickly flipping for a profit, I think anything is fine and choose not to get annoyed anymore.

That said, people who post sales for über-JNat s and don’t post slurry and polish pics annoy me. Like come on, show me that delicious kasumi. That way when I’m envious I can say to myself “if I could only afford this 10kg aircraft carrier suita I’d be that good at polishing to” (obviously not how reality works, but a little escapism is okay methinks)

 

[HumbleHomeCook]

Conus only leads to such disappointment sometimes, I understand shipping will cost more and I’m happy to cover it, I understand duties may occur and that would be my problem not theirs, I really don’t get it personally

Just posted a "help" thread in the Off Topic section. Would love some input. Could be others are in my same boat and maybe we just need some education.

 

[Bico Doce]

Conus only leads to such disappointment sometimes, I understand shipping will cost more and I’m happy to cover it, I understand duties may occur and that would be my problem not theirs, I really don’t get it personally

Not saying I am against shipping internationally but here’s something that I’m experiencing right now which is kind of a pain.

I sold a knife international over 2 months ago. The buyer was unaware that he had to pay duties on it. It is now being returned to me. I have no clue where it is as tracking doesn’t seem be working when it does show up I have to pay the return cost for shipping.

The buyer says he wants the knife and would like to pay to have it sent again but he could try to get a refund from PayPal if he so chooses.

It’s just a crummy situation that I have to deal with because of something on the buyers end.

 

[tag98]

Not saying I am against shipping internationally but here’s something that I’m experiencing right now which is kind of a pain.

I sold a knife international over 2 months ago. The buyer was unaware that he had to pay duties on it. It is now being returned to me. I have no clue where it is as tracking doesn’t seem be working when it does show up I have to pay the return cost for shipping.

The buyer says he wants the knife and would like to pay to have it sent again but he could try to get a refund from PayPal if he so chooses.

It’s just a crummy situation that I have to deal with because of something on the buyers end.

I totally see that, your buyer should have known better, maybe it’s because I’m in Canada and have been ordering from the states for years but I always assume im getting hit with duties and am just happy on the days they sneak through, that said I also have family in the states so if I really want some thing and the seller will not ship to Canada I have a back up plan. That said, I totally see your frustrations

 

[esoo]

Not saying I am against shipping internationally but here’s something that I’m experiencing right now which is kind of a pain.

I sold a knife international over 2 months ago. The buyer was unaware that he had to pay duties on it. It is now being returned to me. I have no clue where it is as tracking doesn’t seem be working when it does show up I have to pay the return cost for shipping.

The buyer says he wants the knife and would like to pay to have it sent again but he could try to get a refund from PayPal if he so chooses.

It’s just a crummy situation that I have to deal with because of something on the buyers end.

So the carrier asked for duties, the buyer refused to pay and as such the knife is being sent back? And the buyer never ordered international before and never knew there might be import duties? And they want the knife sent to them again?

That is an all around sucky situation. Buyers should really be aware of the import situation before doing a deal.

 

[Bico Doce]

So the carrier asked for duties, the buyer refused to pay and as such the knife is being sent back?

He said he wasn't aware that the knife was on hold at the post office awaiting payment. After sitting for a month it was sent back. He says he would have payed if he had known. Not sure what to believe in terms of how well the post office did in notifying him but given that its a western European country it cant be worse than what we have here in the US.

 

[Barmoley]

There was a whole thread started by @Brian Weekley about why people in the US often don't want to ship outside the country. To summarize, it is often a huge pain in the behind and not worth the effort. Of course, when the buyer is as cool as @Brian Weekley then it is worth it.

 

[Delat]

There was a whole thread started by @Brian Weekley about why people in the US often don't want to ship outside the country. To summarize, it is often a huge pain in the behind and not worth the effort. Of course, when the buyer is as cool as @Brian Weekley then it is worth it.

Pretty much this. It’s paperwork I don’t want to mess with, the risk of customs refusing and returning the knife, the risk of the buyer not wanting to pay extra duty, and the whole extra chunk of time in transit with those uncertainties. As a seller I don’t consider a transaction done until the buyer confirms receipt, and I’d rather get that wrapped up and off my mind in 3 days vs 3 weeks.

Maybe worth it for a knife that costs 1k or more with a small pool of buyers, not worth it for me for a knife under that price with a larger pool of buyers.

 

[RevJoe]

My issue is me asking to many questions or dragging my feet and then making a decision only to find I was to late. But I am like this with everything I buy. Drives my wife nuts. If it does not speak to me right away then I ponder on it or do a ton of research to help in the decision and miss out.

 

[tag98]

He said he wasn't aware that the knife was on hold at the post office awaiting payment. After sitting for a month it was sent back. He says he would have payed if he had known. Not sure what to believe in terms of how well the post office did in notifying him but given that its a western European country it cant be worse than what we have here in the US.

Thats definetely on him and shouldnt be put onto you, a month of waiting is crazy, i check the tracking regularly as soon as an item ships

 

[sansho]

He said he wasn't aware that the knife was on hold at the post office awaiting payment. After sitting for a month it was sent back. He says he would have payed if he had known. Not sure what to believe in terms of how well the post office did in notifying him but given that its a western European country it cant be worse than what we have here in the US.

tbh i kind of sympathize with the buyer.

i had a 3k USD thing coming into the US. it was accurately declared, but because of the kind of item, no tax was owed on it.

i checked the damn DHL tracking every day. each day, it was updated with another event that just said something like "Clearance Event". very generic. it was the message you get when something's waiting to clear customs. no indication that there was any kind of a problem.

then after several days of that, it was returned to sender.

turns out that it was inspected because of the value, and any time there's an inspection, you have to pay a ~$15 MPF even if no tax is owed.

i could not have known that without calling, and sitting in customs for a few days is not an unusual thing otherwise.

 

[Choppin]

WTS posts lacking information in general. Like “I want to sell my Toyama 210 for X dollars, enjoy this one blurred pic of the knife. Thanks!”

Like cmon, post some specs at least, wether it was sharpened or not, how it was used… stuff I shouldn’t have to ask.

 

[Barmoley]

tbh i kind of sympathize with the buyer.

i had a 3k USD thing coming into the US. because of the kind of item, no tax was owed on it.

i checked the damn DHL tracking every day. each day, it was updated with another event that just said something like "Clearance Event". very generic. it was the message you get when something's waiting to clear customs. no indication that there was any kind of a problem.

then after several days of that, it was returned to sender.

turns out that it was inspected because of the value, and any time there's an inspection, you have to pay a ~$15 MPF even if no tax is owed.

i could not have known that without calling, and sitting in customs for a few days is not an unusual thing otherwise.

Things like this is why.

Not only that now instead of one incompetent carrier, the seller has to deal with sometimes 2 or more plus customs that is a black hole and not transparent at all.