CCK 1302 or 1303?

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Which One

  • 1302

    Votes: 11 57.9%
  • 1303

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • Other Veggie Cleaver

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Total voters
    19

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In the spirit of ALL RECTANGLE MARCH here's a poll to help me out. Many of you have given a lot of great inputs on various threads but it would be helpful for me to just see it laid out simply.

In my budding research, it seems like there are kinda two schools of cleaver thought: The smaller, lighter school and the larger, heavier school.

Thanks as always KKF.
 
I say thinner/smaller. Reduce the changed variables as I have this (possibly incorrect) assumption you have the most experience with thinner knives, highlighting the squareness of the exercise.

In my pointy knives, I've really found a real liking for Sanjo and Sanjo-esque knives. I don't mind some heft so long as the edge is thin. I can thin them but I can't add size. :)
 
I went through the 13s in order 3-1, then got 1103. I traded that one for an 1102. If I wasn’t focusing on customs, I’d have the 1101.


If I ever have to sell everything, I’ll park down to 1303 and 1101. (And a petty and a suji)
 
I went through the 13s in order 3-1, then got 1103. I traded that one for an 1102. If I wasn’t focusing on customs, I’d have the 1101.


If I ever have to sell everything, I’ll park down to 1303 and 1101. (And a petty and a suji)

What's the difference between the 11 and 13 series?
 
I am on my own journey on these and will probably try the cheaper ones from the wok shop (as i am thinking of altering for fun), but was told by a friend of mine who is very reputable member here 1303 size isn't large enough imo, larger cleavers are easier to use than small ones. Go for the CCK 1302. If I buy one it would be the 1302 he hasn't steered me wrong yet.
 
I am on my own journey on these and will probably try the cheaper ones from the wok shop (as i am thinking of altering for fun), but was told by a friend of mine who is very reputable member here 1303 size isn't large enough imo, larger cleavers are easier to use than small ones. Go for the CCK 1302. If I buy one it would be the 1302 he hasn't steered me wrong yet.

The Wok Shop offerings are fine way to get a feel for if you like the design/concept of cleavers.
 
Sooo… I kinda was and wasn’t. I don’t have 1:1 sizes, but looking at waaw1331’s info on the bay I’m onto something. The spine width changes by 2mm, but the meat of the matter is height. 120mm v 98mm, which account for more weight obvs.

So I fundamentally stick by my statement.
 
I'm more interested in knowing when they're taking those hideous QR codes off.
 
Anyone got the 1301? Seems like fun

I have one. 243mm length, 2.6mm thick, 403g. And 93/94/89mm height from tip/middle/heel. I'm happy with it. It acts same like a 270-300mm mid weight workhorse gyuto. Chopping cabbage, onions, garlic is great with that. If I had one cleaver I'd much prefer a shorter option though (around 210mm).

In my budding research, it seems like there are kinda two schools of cleaver thought: The smaller, lighter school and the larger, heavier school.

Somehow I can do more delicate cuts (for example fine brunoise or lets say even filleting fish, skinning fish) with 200-210mm/90-95mm ones. With 220/110mm, I cannot be super precise. Maybe that's because I'm new at using them I don't know. (I'm only using cleavers around a year now.) This 1301 is somewhere in between them. Not super tall, enough height to hold with two finger pinch grip. So it's definitely a keeper for me.
 

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So what you are deciding between with the 1302 and 1303 is two small slicers. You are not contemplating “two different schools of thought… smaller, lighter to bigger, heavier” You are comparing an apple to a slightly bigger apple. If you want to make it somewhat apples an oranges and stay within the cck slicers, you want to look at either the 13 series for small slicer or 11 series for large slicer.

The 1302 and 1303 are going to be lighter and shorter. They are probably in the 8ish-10ish ounce range, 90ish mm tall probably, while my 1103 the smallest of the large slicers is 14ish ounces and around 110 mm tall. These two series will handle much differently while the differences within the series will be much less, although the length does make a difference, especially comparing 1301 to 1303.

Another thing is I believe you just got a small wok shop cleaver. So if that’s very similiar dimensions to the 13 series CCK, most likely( I admit I’m presuming) you will find yourself preferring the cck and your wok shop one will quickly be collecting dust. If you were to get a 11 series you could try two different sizes and styles and still use your wok shop one, before moving on. Of course if you are rather trying to upgrade from the wok shop and stay similiar size than perhaps the 13 series is your huckleberry. I am presuming that the wok shop is smaller, but I may be mistaken.

Also you don’t really need to subscribe to one of these “schools of thought.” You can possibly over complicate it. They are still tools. Just like it’s nice to have different size gyutos for different tasks. It can be nice to have different size cleavers for different duties. What I mean is I grab a small or a large cleaver based upon what I’m doing. Not that I’m changing back and forth for every ingredient. But for example if I was doing a lot of big bulk prep with some larger portions I would probably grab a large cleaver. Or maybe if I was doing a lot of small items like a list of mushrooms, brussel sprouts, shallots I’d probably grab a small cleaver.

It’s just like with gyutos. We could pretty much do just about everything with one gyuto, but people that are here are generally not doing that. They get different sizes, carbon, stainless etc. Its the same with cleavers. If you start using them pretty much exclusively “most” people that are here are going to have more than one to fit different occasions and more than likely to satisfy their love of knives.
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Whatever model you will end up going for, have a look at this one. Click through the gallery, it really is worth it:


If he offered that "pimp my CCK" service I'd probably buy from him!

FWIW, I have the 1303. I have tried it again and again with bigger and heavier ones, I really kept trying, but I guess those aren't for me. The 1303 is a size and weight category that I really enjoy using.
 
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Voted for the 1302 because bigger is better. :p

That "pimp" is really ugly but to each their own.
 
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