Part of the reason I hang around is I see it as a community of gentlemen who generally comport themselves as such. This instance is a shake my head kind of thing but it's withing the rules. Interesting that the OP who threw the first stone appears to be a known and ostracized "flipper" re-emerging from the past.
Much more egregious to me are Riverie current WTS posts for the two Suisin Yani's. These were recently purchased from Korin as part of a Suisin promotion. $200 each, limit one per customer. I don't like to ascribe motives to anyone but it seems to me that these were purchased from Korin with the intention of flipping them on this forum for 4X profit. It's within the rules, but bad form and an abuse of both our sponsoring vendor and the bst subforum.
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/4-great-bnib-single-bevel-knives-pt1.39923/#post-589558
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/4-great-single-bevel-bnib-knives-pt2.39924/
Dear Dave,
It’s such a sad, and unfortunate these things happen between us. I had nothing but a nice smooth and pleasant transaction with you in the past. I know you bought knife/knives and wood from me through BST with no issues, and we even talked a bit through PM. Yesterday you spit on my face in this open public discussion, slamming my sale thread, although you clearly said “It’s within the rules” and I didn’t violate any rule. However I reached out to you politely, and nicely this morning through private message to find out why you did that, and clarify everything, since I believe that’s the proper way to do when you’re adult and mature, before I said this in public. I know you’re online this noon and read my message, I never heard back to you, you might be busy and have no time to answer. And I’m totally fine…..I don’t judge and never claimed that this is kind of “hit and run”. However I want to clarify this….
Much more egregious to me are Riverie current WTS posts for the two Suisin Yani's. These were recently purchased from Korin as part of a Suisin promotion. $200 each, limit one per customer.
You’re absolutely right!!! Came at 6.30am in nyc cold weather, hoping lucky enough to able to pick the knife I wanted, because it was such a limited quantity. 1-2 for each blade on certain type including my doi, and won’t be able to pick up the knife after 2PM.
I don't like to ascribe motives to anyone but it seems to me that these were purchased from Korin with the intention of flipping them on this forum for 4X profit.
I collect Doi and love his knife. Anyway, someone’s intention or motif shouldn’t be your concern. Making profit …. Why not if it’s still within the common sense price??? If I sell that knife back at $200 that means:
1. I have no clue the real value of that knife
2. I’m a charity
3. I’m idiot, stupid or dumb
4. Crazy
I’m a longtime member here… matter in fact Dave Martell invited me here because I was a member of original knife forum KF before it split. I value the meaning, and integrity of this forum as a media to share our hobby, respect the core of enjoying this knife addiction, without hurting nor taking advantage from new or other member. Trust me on this…I’m not that kind of person. That being said, I won’t and never trying to ripping off someone from my sale. I did my homework before I posted price on my knife based on the value in the market, price from vendor, condition of my knife to make sure I’m being fair. That Doi hayate with same specs and length will cost you $1200 in korin, not including tax. You can check that also before you attacking me. Now am I greedy and a bad guy for selling it for $800 in a same BNIB condition ????
If you still not happy with 4X from original price, I have a nice propotition for you. Buy a lottery ticket for $20, and when that ticket hit the jackpot, I want first dibs…I will not pay you 4X, I will pay you 400X cash!!! Moral of story is, the original price of the stuff you bought from doesn’t really always show the real value when you’re trying to sell it. I sold my tatsuo for $1.7k because that’s how I valued them (buyee japan sold it for way over $2k). I sold my new ichimonji hamokiri for $325 because that’s how I value them ( new from ichimonji is $700), and the list goes on…
It's within the rules, but bad form and an abuse of both our sponsoring vendor and the bst subforum.
I bought the knife legally, legit, clean and square. No lowballing, no force in any harmful way. Korin said the price is XXX, I paid XXX with tax, and transaction fulfilled. I’m sure whatever I want to do with the knife after, won’t abuse korin. I could do whatever I want to do with it, selling it for 400000X or even burned it to the ground. I also sold many knives here. I saw many times the member that bought my knife from, resell his for hundreds dollar more….I’m totally fine with it. It’s his knife and I’m happy he could sell it to new owner that could enjoy the knife.
In term of you’re saying I have a bad form? Please elaborate more….My sale and thread were honest, term was clear, no hidden cost, pictures also real without any retouching or photoshop, price is there for potential buyer to check and see how much they cost outside, always replying pm for any questions regarding the sale…..what did I do wrong? Like you said I didn’t violate any rule .
On the other hand, you as moderator, you didn’t try to discuss your objection of my “egregious” act in private message. Yet you’re attacking me with those kind of judgments, profiling, and labeling in public. If anybody violating rules here….It was you!!!
“Remarks such as the one you made are frowned upon and are NOT within the rules. We don't need any self appointed BST police. First time up you'll get a warning, second time you'll have BST privileges revoked without further discussion.”
“KKF has no interest in the BST section and only provides it as a venue for interested buyers and sellers. Should a misadventure occur it is up to the parties involved to resolve it. Such misadventures, if they occur, are fair game for other sections of the forum.”
Feel free to ban me if you’re thinking my statements here are offensive and inappropriate. I also want to apologize to other member that got offended with my clarification and BST thread…..because clearly Daveb got offended.