Yes that's sandblasting (youtube it maybe) other common techniques are with etching and buffing. Can also be done with fingerstones. It's extremely rare I think, you get kasumi finish made on flat stones (not even shigefusa for example), maybe some cases where you pay extra for it by western makers.When i discuss with taiwan knives community group someone said there's a technique which is like a spray can make kasumi look, but not by sharpening, i just confuse about it.
Yes i think is call sandblasting, a Taiwan experience knives collector which has super many honyaki & shigefusa guys told be beware of auction knife in taiwan group, he was telling me the kasumi can be sandblasting for cosmetic to try to increase value of the knife..Yes that's sandblasting (youtube it maybe) other common techniques are with etching and buffing. Can also be done with fingerstones. It's extremely rare I think, you get kasumi finish made on flat stones (not even shigefusa for example), maybe some cases where you pay extra for it by western makers.
I don't know if it's "fake" per se. But it's just not done with stones. As @RDalman noted, "Define "real" Kasumi"...Yes i think is call sandblasting, a Taiwan experience knives collector which has super many honyaki & shigefusa guys told be beware of auction knife in taiwan group, he was telling me the kasumi can be sandblasting for cosmetic to try to increase value of the knife..
I just thinking this knife look similar but not confirm as the same seller doing auction again. Only want to gain my knowledge for identify fake kasumi which is not done by stone.
Currently about 4000 taiwan dollar.how much is the knife?
never saw a single stoneCurrently about 4000 taiwan dollar.
Hiding low spots is not good, once we sharpen we had to get rid of the low spots....I don't know if it's "fake" per se. But it's just not done with stones. As @RDalman noted, "Define "real" Kasumi"...
It's easy to spot sandblast kasumi--it's milky looking and homogenous. Watanabe/Toyama and many other makers use it. It's a time-saver and covers (~hides) all low-spots evenly. A full stone polish would require dealing with those low spots in one way or another--the amount of time to do a "proper" kasumi would likely increase price.
The only knife I got without low spots was more than $4000 and even there the finish was ok but not perfect.Hiding low spots is not good, once we sharpen we had to get rid of the low spots....
WOW!The only knife I got without low spots was more than usd4k and even there the finish was ok but not perfect.
I don't know the different, does it make any performance/ cutting different between sand blasting or finish on stone ?and a 40 years old Shg kitaeji takobiki.
But the newer ones are totally different.
..and a Clever from Dalman (how could I forget?!). He finished it on Jnats.
Otherwise finish on stones is pretty hard to find. And would make the prices sky rocketing!
I see knives BNIB finished on stones more like a luxury.
And ..if the knife you showed above was finished on stones, would it perform better on a long term than a knife made a by well-known maker that hasn't been finished on stones?
sexy workI hear wobble and low spots are fairly common on most unless you spend a great deal of money.
I can attest that it takes a great deal of time and hyper focus on even a single knife to get right.
Getting the kasumi to the spine for instance...was a monumental chore for me for example. Just that part took a lot of work and precision...
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I don't know the different, does it make any performance/ cutting different between sand blasting or finish on stone ?
Might depend on grind, my Kurosaki has beautiful sand blasted Kasumi, finger feel is tougher than Stone Kasumi, but no noticeable drags during cutting. The slight concave grind might be helping. IMHO, grind is more important than surface finish, & rougher surfaces tend to get smoother with use.
Is that what it looked like on arrival? If so, that looks etched as opposed to blasted.
Yes, it’s original look, could be either way but I asked this question on KKF before & majority thought it was blasted but I don’t know for sure.
"Both are ways one could totally hide a low spot or non-flat surface until you took it to a rock that is."
There are makers out there intentionally selling knives with low spots (like 99% of what's coming out of japan, and lots lots from the rest of the world too). I don't think they should be viewed like they're "hiding" low spots in their blade surfaces/flaws, when they intentionally make like that. Ie- watoyama, tf, shig, kato, me etc...
Thank you for posting this.. I hate that people expect absolute perfection for such low amounts of $$$The only knife I got without low spots was more than $4000 and even there the finish was ok but not perfect.
It may be found for cheaper but I‘ve never had in my own hands.
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