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Regrettably, going to let some good ones go:

uchigumori 202x71x27 - $350 $300 $275

Bought from @ethompson so you know it's good. His description:

Sold to me as Ohira, but not completely confident in the seller… regardless it is a superlative quality stone that straddles hato / jito lines. Zero lines or inclusions on the flattened surface. High contrast kasumi. Only thing keeping it from being a $750-1200 stone is that towards the bottom there is su, significant su by the looks of the sides… probably easily dug like most uchi, but makes the lifetime quality of the stone uncertain. For a hobbiest you’d still have a decade or more of use before that became an issue. I was talking to Milan and he mentioned he uses 2-5mm of softer pre-finishers per year and he’s making and polishing a lot more knives than we would. Should have flawless stone for at least half the height.

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2: Morihei Hakka Suita- $500 $485 (850 new)

Description from Strata:

Brand: Morihei 森平
Producing Area: Kyoto - Japan
Mine: Hakka
Strata: Suita
Appearance: Beautiful off-white-orange with lots of Ao and Aka Renge
Size: 202mm x 76mm x 38mm
Weight: 1384g
Grit Range: 6000-8000

1-5 Scale: 1 = Less, 5 = More
Hardness Level: 3.5
Scratch Depth: 2
Speed: 4
Wear Rate: 1.5
Self Slurry: 2.5
Ease of Use: 3

Recommended Usage: Frosty to polished Kasumi; very keen edges; pre polishing for razors and tools.


Notes: A beautiful specimen of rare Hakka Suita. The corner line can be felt, but does not affect performance. The small pits are stable and do not scratch. Otherwise flawless. Really fast scratch removal makes polishing the Hagane a breeze, and easy to get a nice polished Kasumi quickly. Works best with forced slurry or tomo nagura, and mild to firm pressure in very short strokes.


Disclaimer: Given the natural aspect of these stones, all subjective qualities are our estimates and may vary slightly from your exact expectations and assessment. The images shown and characteristics described may be from a previous example. If purchased, yours may differ slightly in appearance and qualities. Dimensions, weight, and stamps may be different from listed if it has been tested.

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3. Last but not least, Maruoyama Shiki-uchigumori Gokujo $500 $485 (new $608+shipping from japan)

197x74x48mm

A big one. I'm writing my own description and I'm not an expert so take everything with a grain of salt. I call hardness about 3-3.5. Quite fine, 6-8000 grit? While feedback is a little harder/chalkier than the first uchi for example, it slurries and cuts quite fast. Gives super punchy kasumis, very dark misty finish if you want to, or use more pressure to get something brighter. As you can see, has a small corner missing in the back, but it's a massive and extremely clean stone. Also known as tenjou suita from other mines, shiki uchi is unique to maruoyama. I think I can call this sunashi, don't really see any su holes..


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All three of these are really nice! Clean surfaces, easy to use, perfect fineness for edges or general polishing. Someone curious to dip their toes into the waters of JNats would be hard pressed to find a better selection than these.

The Shiki Uchi in particular are frequently slept on compared to shiro suita when in reality the performance is extremely similar and shiki suita tend to be cleaner stones.
 
Besides being in different layers, how does the Hakka suita differ from a Hakka tomae?
@ethompson would be able to give a better description. However...suitas are suitas usually because of the layer like you said, and they have holes in them (except for sunashi which means without holes, suita layer without holes).

Suita=birds nest, something something holes. Pretty sure tomae is made up of multiple different strata and it's a large encompassing term?

Functionally I believe that tomaes are usually a bit softer and coarser than suitas. But with everything here this probably isn't always the case. Could be completely wrong. Let's wait for Ed. I originally bought this because I wanted a nice medium hard suita good for polishing, and the color and the fact that it was from a lesser seen mine was cool to me. Hope the new buyer enjoys it.
 
It’s almost foolhardy to make generalized comparisons between tomae and suita - there are multiple layers of suita and forty something layers of tomae after all…

For Hakka in particular, they’re so rare I haven’t encountered enough examples of each type to really know - I’ve used 4, maybe 5 total. All have been soft, self slurrying types. The suita and akapin have been tied for the coarsest. The tomae a bit finer. But that’s just anecdotal.
 
It’s almost foolhardy to make generalized comparisons between tomae and suita - there are multiple layers of suita and forty something layers of tomae after all…

For Hakka in particular, they’re so rare I haven’t encountered enough examples of each type to really know - I’ve used 4, maybe 5 total. All have been soft, self slurrying types. The suita and akapin have been tied for the coarsest. The tomae a bit finer. But that’s just anecdotal.
Really enjoy the Hakka Tomas I have was curious if there’s anything different with the Hakka suita
Thanks for sharing
 
Wowsers!!!! Some killer pieces. Congrats to the new owner of the Haaka Suita especially. As stated prior, they don't really make omit out of Japan and there are only 3-4 sellers in know of that would even consider telling anyone they could possibly dig one out of an old stock pile. Epic stones/deals overall!
 
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