ynot1985
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Hi has anyone used this before?
Any pro/cons?
Haven't seen any reviews online and would like to know more.. Thanks
Any pro/cons?
Haven't seen any reviews online and would like to know more.. Thanks
As long as performance is good and cuts well.. Which is define as fit?
As long as performance is good and cuts well.. Which is define as fit?
Fit and finish (F&F) could describe things including but not limited to handle scales/tang being flush with no gaps, roughness of choil, errant grind marks; overall aesthetics that aren't necessarily related to performance. My Sukenari honyaki Gyuto has a higher OOTB F&F than my Watanabe honyaki gyuto, but significantly improved the Watanabe by removing the grind marks on the emoto & choil, polished it up nicely
Actually tjangula, what's your impression of the Sukenari Honyaki?
The Sukenari is a little strange knife, meaning, the mirror polish, does not have the same standards all the time, sometimes, even among the two sides of the same blade. Yet, even when it is not perfect(I suppose, it must depend on the batches and the technician), it is still better than the Mizuno gyuto mirror finish level, which has stable quality. Sukenari also has half rounded spine and choil compared to Mizuno that is between eased and half rounded, but the only knife that I have with fully rounded spine(and by far in every detail best fit and finish is Hiromoto Yo Gyuto 30cm. Yes, that knife is the fit and finish champion.
I have used the Sukenaris very little, only at home, this will be their year. So far, by the ootb edge, which is decent, they cut great.
White 1 has more aggressive cutting properties than White 2(blue 2 as well), which makes me wonder why such a fever for Kato and Shigefusa( I never had one, or touched one -that's why I wonder - Idont mean to belittle the knives, still, they are cladded white 2).
As I read, here in the forums by someone, cladded knives are like wearing a condom( I am very satisfied with many cladded knives, but I agree with that statement, and I will add that monosteel feels natural, and Honyaki feels on viagra).
The strange thing about Sukenari Honyaki Gyutos, is that at all lengths, it is almost the same knife, but longer or shorter.
By that I mean: The Sukenari Honyaki Gyuto 27cm may be the exact same profile with the Masamoto KS 24cm gyuto(they are both around 255mm cutting edge). The tip is a little different though.
The gyuto 24cm Sukenari, is identical in everything with the 27cm, just shorter, and the same applies for the 21 cm.
That means that the 21cm is wide for a 21cm, and that the 27cm is narrow for a 27cm.
But they are all great and very beautiful!!! Also White 1!!! This is the most important.
And compared to Fujiwaras White 1, cheaper and mirror Honyaki, not rustique cladding, more expensive.
One more thing that I have to mention, is the profile comparison, between Sukenari and Mizuno 24cm gyutos.
Mizuno is thicker in the spine, taller and heavier.
Yet, the shape of the lower 50% part of the blade, over the edge, are almost identical.
The tip is at the exactly same height, the cutting edge is the same, all the edge profile is the same, with the exception of the 2 cm curve under the tip. the curve there at 1-2cm is a little different. So practically, they have the same profile, with Mizuno having extra cm in height. Over the edge, both are very thin with Sukenari being a very little thinner, and having edge out of the box.
About Hiromotos, I have written everything on previous posts.
I cant tell about the sujihiki, I havent used it yet, but out of the box it had worse edge than the gyuto.
I love the metal bolster gyuto version(I cant talk about the other version) the best western knife ever.
I have managed to mirror polish it evenly all over the blade, up to a degree, big upgrade.
I love mirror polish finishes.
I love as well the santoku with the more gyuto-ish profile.
I just got my bolster less honyaki back from wa-conversion done by robin Dalman.... It is a brilliant knife now [emoji2]
I just got my bolster less honyaki back from wa-conversion done by robin Dalman.... It is a brilliant knife now 😃
I was surfing around the Sukenari website and it appears that they make limited runs for customers to spec... Hard to say because the JP-EN translation is poor. They have hap40 gyutos for sale atm.
I also read that Sukenari made knives for other brands, do you recall where you came across this information SS3?
I think the HAP40 are sold out since nov.
"2015.11.7 売り切れました"
I also read that Sukenari made knives for other brands, do you recall where you came across this information SS3?
I never said such a thing. I dont know, first time I hear about it
Actually, I am thinking of getting one as well
I have to mention, that I dont have a KS 240mm(i will get one at some point), But based on dimensions and the fact that first generation Sukenari used to work for Masamoto, makes me think that Sukenari Honyaki 27cm and Masamoto KS 24cm, might be almost identical profiles.
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