Overpriced, no questionsmall sizes Koppa natural sharpening water stones from Kyotowww.kitchen-knife.jp
What do you think of #11?
Very cool collection! I bet you have more JNats in the closet, lol. IMO your Nakayama tomae is the most beautiful one from the batch.View attachment 148898
since last we spoke...
Nakayama Suita - just got this one, a quick test and it does what it's supposed to. hard but doesnt feel it, black swarf that accrues a lot faster than you'd expect, fine edges.
Nakayama Maruka Tomae - after @JDC showed off one of these, I uh... had to have one from the same batch. In all honesty, haven't even tested this one yet. Stunner in person though. This came from Carbon if you're looking...
Shoubudani Tomae - nice slightly harder example and this is why I love these stones. they are not my absolute favorite stones BUT you get a lot for your money. great edges, nice contrast, this one being a bit harder doesnt make as much mud as some other ones Ive had but still very easy to sharpen on. all for barely more money than some synthetics.
Ohira Shiro Suita - got this one off BST & originally from Watanabe. love this stone. brutal, brutal edges, and a good polisher to boot. this is what I think of being a 'typical' great JNAT. it just does everything and of all of my suitas this one is my favorite edge stone. I like it as a polisher, but it's not as easy as some other suitas I own
Maruoyama Tamagoiro Sunashi Suita - Cool little stone; kind of a Maruo version of a fine finisher I guess. Which means it's still muddy af compared to the Aiiwa/Atago/Naka stuff for its fineness, which makes it super easy to use.
Maruoyama Shiro Suita - this stone is just the best. super easy to polish, amazing edge, the prices are still reasonable for what you get. this one is over a kilo and the only stone I like better is an Ohira Renge Suita that is just a bit faster and a bit of a more convenient shape (wider, longer but sadly shorter)
Maruoyama Shiki Uchigumori - Nice stone, but I don't use it much tbh. Kind of overlaps with my Maruo ao suita I guess? I should use it more, it was a lot of stone for the money. Muddy but not quite like the shiro suita. Leaves a great finish too.
Aiiwatani Asagi - got this from Bernal, listed as a level 4 hardness and 4-4.5 fineness which I think is fair. polishing on this stone is doable, just takes some patience/skill. I dont usually polish on this stone just because I tend to like a bit hazier finish than mirrored, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE this stone for edges. Probably finer than a lot of folks around here would like, but it works great for me
Atagoyama - This was called "HUGE" by Maksim, and he rated it 3.5 hardness. I have limited time on this stone, but so far I like it a lot. Finish is contrasty and the edge is amazing. Also I cannot imagine that I could ever use up this stone in my lifetime, and the surface is so big that it makes polishing a breeze
and actually I forgot to add a little 600g Shoubudani I got from Bernal but in all honesty I dont have many miles on it even though it's a nice softer/very muddy stone.
my favorite stones as well. I own 3 Ohira Shiro Suitas, though 1 of mine is sumi not renge.I fear that I have become excessively fond of the Ohira Renge Suita. I just love everything about them. The feel when sharpening on them. The smell. The sharpening results. The look. So, somehow, I wound up with 3 of them.
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The middle is the newest member of the family.
This excessive group did not come about because of a collector mentality. The first was the one on the right. I loved everything about it except the shape and the wobbliness. The wobbliness I cured by pouring epoxy, but the shape...I like to sharpen, and especially hone razors, in-hand, and my hands, while large, are not large enough to do it with that stone.
So I got the stone on the left. Paid a pretty penny for it, too. At last, I would have my perfect Ohira suita. Except it's so perfect that it's incredibly fine. Great pre-finisher for razors, and I love it, but you're not going to get a perfect toothy knife edge on it.
So, the new one is Take 3. Haven't tried it out yet, but I have high hopes for it, as both a perfect shape for honing in hand, and a creator of toothy kitchen knife edges. We'll see. Even if it's not that, I'm sure I'll find things to love about it, because these stones seem to do that for me.
That's a really good idea, and I will try it out.if you are finding them too fine, my suggestion is to make a bigger jump from your last stone. if I want an angry, angry edge, sometimes I will use a 1k stone and then go to a finisher directly, but I will admit even the finest of my stones are not too fine for my taste, including my hard Aiiwatani asagi or the new Nakayama kiita I picked up
OK, that worked really well, starting with a Naniwa 800 on a TF Nashiji petty, and jumping straight to the finest of those Ohira Suitas. Great edge, super-keen with just enough rasp. I'm on board. Now to try the most extreme version, almost, starting with a Sigma 1000 (a nasty stone if ever there was one), and jumping straight to a Nakayama Tomae razor pre-finisher. If I don't survive it, remember me.f you are finding them too fine, my suggestion is to make a bigger jump from your last stone. if I want an angry, angry edge, sometimes I will use a 1k stone and then go to a finisher directly, but I will admit even the finest of my stones are not too fine for my taste, including my hard Aiiwatani asagi or the new Nakayama kiita I picked up
I jumped from sp1k to an ultra final finisher, and the edges were beyond comprehension. Two very light sweeps at ~30-40 degrees per side, anything more than that the magic is gone.OK, that worked really well, starting with a Naniwa 800 on a TF Nashiji petty, and jumping straight to the finest of those Ohira Suitas. Great edge, super-keen with just enough rasp. I'm on board. Now to try the most extreme version, almost, starting with a Sigma 1000 (a nasty stone if ever there was one), and jumping straight to a Nakayama Tomae razor pre-finisher. If I don't survive it, remember me.