Kamon production knives

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  1. Nov 8, 2019 #31

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    Don't say anything bad about Austria. Otherwise I'll send you terminator...

    As promised, a few pics, I'm sorry, there is no daylight, when I am at home at the moment.

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    The last 2 pics are showing the "budget-line" next to my 2 customs, one is a 265mm 7-layer-san mai, stainless clad and the other one (the santoku-ish knife of my wife) is a 5-layer-san-mai with carbon steel cladding.

    Didn't find time to test the knife, but I am pretty sure it will perform well.

    Mack.
     
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  2. Nov 8, 2019 #32

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    Thank you for the pics, looks very good. I also feel inadequate now since I only have 1 Kamon.
     
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  3. Nov 8, 2019 #33

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    Nice. How does the handle feel in hand? I like that he's done away with those recessed nut holes in the new line handles.
     
  4. Nov 8, 2019 #34

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    holy smokes i cant wait til i get mine
     
  5. Nov 8, 2019 #35

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  6. Nov 8, 2019 #36

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  7. Nov 9, 2019 #37

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    Managed to get one too, (im)patiently waiting for it to arrive!
     
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  8. Nov 9, 2019 #38

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    Congrats Mack :)
     
  9. Nov 9, 2019 #39

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    Mack, any chance for a spince comparison between the new and the customs?
     
  10. Nov 9, 2019 #40

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    Spince? Or spine? English is not my mother tongue, I'm sorry.

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  11. Nov 9, 2019 #41

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    ooooh tempting. Shame I just picked up a Tsourkan WH gyuto
     
  13. Nov 9, 2019 #43

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    Yeah, it was supposed to say spine. ;)
     
  14. Nov 10, 2019 #44

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    to flip it?
     
  15. Nov 10, 2019 #45

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    Looks pretty cool. I'm interested in the first reviews.
     
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  18. Nov 13, 2019 at 8:56 AM #48

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    I am truly sorry for the late answer, had a lot of work. The main difference is, that Ben's coustoms are forged, whereas the production line knives are made stock removal. This leads to the fact, that the customs are imho perfectly tapered, whereas the production line isn't. I talked to Benjamin, he said that tapering the production knife would increase the price of the knife. As you can see on the pictures below the tips are very thin on both knives, but the production knife stays at 3,7mm for almost 4/5 of the blade.

    But: The taper on the spine is one thing. To me more important is the taper inside the blade (let's say 1cm or 2cm above the edge). The hollow grind is the reason why there is no big difference in food release.

    So as a conclusion (imho): If you have a hollow grind, a tapered blade is of course nice to have, but not that necessary than a blade with conventional grind (means no hollow grind).

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  19. Nov 13, 2019 at 9:00 AM #49
    Well, 3.7mm spine thickness over 4/5 of the length of the knife does not sound like intuitive choice. But maybe the milled depression mitigates the possible issue with weight & balance.
     
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  20. Nov 13, 2019 at 9:36 AM #50

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    Matus, as I already mentioned, to me taper along the spine isn't that important, even less if there is a hollow grind. You are in Germany, I am in Austria, if you want, I'll send you the knife and you can generate your own opinion. Just send me a short PM if you want to try it.

    Mack.

    p.s. the 4/5 of the blade were spoken from my memory, in fact the 3,7mm area lasts 18cm (of 27 in total), so it is 2/3 of the blade, sorry for my inaccurate statement above.
     
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  21. Nov 13, 2019 at 10:55 AM #51
    Mack, I apologize, I did not want to attack Ben’s work, I should have chosen my words more carefully. I would of course love to have a chance to test one of his knives, but I would not want to bully my way to get my hands on one.
     
  22. Nov 13, 2019 at 11:53 AM #52

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    Matus, no worries and no need for an excuse. We should communicate in German, would be easier maybe LOL.

    I'll pm you.

    Mack.
     
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  23. Nov 15, 2019 at 2:36 AM #53

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    Curious for more reviews. I haven't received mine yet
     
  24. Nov 16, 2019 at 5:04 AM #54

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    Yeah still waiting for mine. It’s been in the post for a while, still can’t really tell where in the world it currently is. I’m curious about how wide the spine is throughout.
     

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