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I am trying to understand why the price of this knife is so high, being a VG-10?
Also what makes this more absurd, is the fact there is not a single specifications of it. No weight, height, spine thickness etc.. Masutani vg-10 is only 30 mm shorter but costs about $80-$90?

Am I missing something?

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It’s a nice line, and it’s Damascus with a premium handle, but yeah 800 bucks is a lot.
 
hand forged stainless damascus I guess
All Naka’s knives are hand forged but cheaper than this one and better steels. VG-10 its SS no matter how.

It’s a nice line, and it’s Damascus with a premium handle, but yeah 800 bucks is a lot.

It is a nice line but seems way overpriced. There is a lot of VG-10 dama around. And ebony/horn its good but not that Premium…
 
All Naka’s knives are hand forged but cheaper than this one and better steels. VG-10 its SS no matter how.



It is a nice line but seems way overpriced. There is a lot of VG-10 dama around. And ebony/horn its good but not that Premium…
I hear you. I’ve just observed those seem to be two features retailers will charge more for for otherwise comparable knives.
 
I hear you. I’ve just observed those seem to be two features retailers will charge more for for otherwise comparable knives.
Idk, first time I see this vg-10 being this much. Maybe other retailers have the same price range for it too. Not sure. It just popped up in my feed.
 
I am trying to understand why the price of this knife is so high, being a VG-10?
Also what makes this more absurd, is the fact there is not a single specifications of it. No weight, height, spine thickness etc.. Masutani vg-10 is only 30 mm shorter but costs about $80-$90?

Am I missing something?

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Not sure where you're seeing the listing, but all the specs are up on the Bernal website
https://bernalcutlery.com/products/...-vg10-ebony-handle-blonde-buffalo-horn-w-saya
 
All Naka’s knives are hand forged but cheaper than this one and better steels. VG-10 its SS no matter how.



It is a nice line but seems way overpriced. There is a lot of VG-10 dama around. And ebony/horn its good but not that Premium…
Those other dama vg-10 knives in abundance (like masutani) are mostly laser or water jet cut, pre-laminated stock removal knvies.
As said above, it could be hand forged cladding, and/or laminated in house. Yes, Naka's knives are hand forged, but his other dama offerings are likely pre-lam. But it's all speculation since, as you pointed out, Bernal left that to the imagination on this one. Also, it's Bernal... who will happily charge you $40 for a knife you could've dug out of a bin at Goodwill, and even save you the trouble of even picking it out yourself! But if it isn't hand laminated, that price is outta hand!
As for VG-10... It does seem to be a favorite for making "33 layer!" mass produced knives in the Japanese market, which isn't doing much for its reputation. And while I dont' like sharpening those knives nor VG-10 in general, I've used some forged versions that weren't that bad- and fairly tough and with decent edge retention. And I'm with you- in that I don't own (and don't plan to) any VG-10 myself.
 
Those other dama vg-10 knives in abundance (like masutani) are mostly laser or water jet cut, pre-laminated stock removal knvies.
As said above, it could be hand forged cladding, and/or laminated in house. Yes, Naka's knives are hand forged, but his other dama offerings are likely pre-lam. But it's all speculation since, as you pointed out, Bernal left that to the imagination on this one. Also, it's Bernal... who will happily charge you $40 for a knife you could've dug out of a bin at Goodwill, and even save you the trouble of even picking it out yourself! But if it isn't hand laminated, that price is outta hand!
As for VG-10... It does seem to be a favorite for making "33 layer!" mass produced knives in the Japanese market, which isn't doing much for its reputation. And while I dont' like sharpening those knives nor VG-10 in general, I've used some forged versions that weren't that bad- and fairly tough and with decent edge retention. And I'm with you- in that I don't own (and don't plan to) any VG-10 myself.
I absolutely agree with what u said. Even for vintage ones.

In house laminated was my initial thought, but there was no info provided in the description.

As for 33 layers its common even for Dalstrong knives or other Amazon made in China knives with poor HT of VG-10.

But for home use If its properly heat treated and forged, VG-10 makes a good beater. Thats why I mentioned Masutani. I have one and it has seen kitchen horrors of use and abuse and still holding strong. I dont mind using VG-10 for home use.
 
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As for 33 layers its common even for Dalstrong knives or other Amazon made in China knives with poor HT of VG-10.
I should have said asian market, cuz that's exactly what I meant...

And those Masutani's are what I usually recommend for my sharpening customers looking to upgrade but stay with stainless.
 
All Naka’s knives are hand forged but cheaper than this one and better steels. VG-10 its SS no matter how.



It is a nice line but seems way overpriced. There is a lot of VG-10 dama around. And ebony/horn its good but not that Premium…
let's assume it is an in-house forged stainless damascus for a minute. is there another hand forged stainless damascus sanmai that's cheap? in any core steel and in any stainless combination (i.e., the two stainless steels that were used to create the damascus cladding)
 
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I donno, 1k USD to get a stabbing thing (?) with a engraved curse from the local shaman for possible demon warding benefits sounds reasonable.
At the price, it should be rated for the impossible demons as well.

Also, for a mermaid she seemed … fully equipped. I wonder if for $800 less a more Disney-spec one could be had.
 
let's assume it is an in-house forged stainless damascus for a minute. is there another hand forged stainless damascus sanmai that's cheap? in any core steel and in any stainless combination (i.e., the two stainless steels that were used to create the damascus cladding)
Stainless damascus vg10 core is so common in Japan as a pre-laminate that it would make absolutely no sense to create it in house. You would also be better off with a factory produced version vs in-house just more consistent and better centered in most cases. Doing it in house only makes sense when a combination doesn’t exist from a factory, so I very much doubt this is in house made. When they say hand forged for these, most of the time it means forged from a ready blank not everything is in house. Basically shaped in house using a forge.

Granted I don’t know how this was made, but it would make very little sense to build this combination from the ground up when same blanks are easily available.
 
Stainless damascus vg10 core is so common in Japan as a pre-laminate that it would make absolutely no sense to create it in house. You would also be better off with a factory produced version vs in-house just more consistent and better centered in most cases. Doing it in house only makes sense when a combination doesn’t exist from a factory, so I very much doubt this is in house made. When they say hand forged for these, most of the time it means forged from a ready blank not everything is in house. Basically shaped in house using a forge.

Granted I don’t know how this was made, but it would make very little sense to build this combination from the ground up when same blanks are easily available.
I don't disagree. the reasoning around the much higher price if it was fully made in house is valid, right? despite of the low possibility of that being the case.
 
I don't disagree. the reasoning around the much higher price if it was fully made in house is valid, right? despite of the low possibility of that being the case.
Yes, if it was laminated in house the price would be explainable from the work involved, but in reality whether it is laminated in house or made out of a factory blank for an end user one is not better than the other and if anything the one made out of a factory blank has a higher chance of being better. I wouldn't pay more just because an available factory combination/thickness was laminated in house. This knife might be worth the price for other reasons, such as who made it, etc.
 
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