- Jun 19, 2018
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Huh! It is obvious now that you say it... but I had never thought of that! Interesting. I guess a little box or saya would do the trick... still, that is an interesting practical consideration.I was pretty attracted to the simplicity of kami style blades when I started straights, but then you have to add a way to store the razor and the simplicity is gone. Conventional scaled razors are like folding pocket knives. A fixed blade is arguably a better knife, but a folder is just too practical.
Wow! That is disappointing. Seems like pretty basic QA. Sorry about that. Hopefully the other geometry is ok!Yeah, Which is sad.
For ordinary knives, this is usually true, in terms of stability and strength. But razors don't fold the same way as pocket knives, and a razor with scales is exactly as stable and exactly as strong as one without.Conventional scaled razors are like folding pocket knives. A fixed blade is arguably a better knife, ...
With the scales at 90º to the blade (at least the way I shave) the mass of the scales helps stabilize the shaving angle. Actually elegant IMO. I find the scales handy for safely closing the razor between passes. I'm either shaving, stropping, or the razor is closed.i actually prefer the kamisoris just because they dont fold. i feel its easier to handle it.
with the folders you always have those scales flopping around around somewhere.
+1With the scales at 90º to the blade (at least the way I shave) the mass of the scales helps stabilize the shaving angle. Actually elegant IMO. I find the scales handy for safely closing the razor between passes. I'm either shaving, stropping, or the razor is closed.
For posterity, wanted to follow up on this.Wondering if the collective wisdom can shine a light on something. I’m also interested in straight razors to reduce waste. I know the cost savings angle is self-deception.
Picked this up as a first to learn on. It’ll get shaving sharp, but doesn’t shave as well as a safety razor or a Harry’s. It eventually does the job, but not terribly comfortable. I’ve worked it over with blue, yellow coticules, black Ark, translucent Ark, wet and dry for all, leather strop with 1micron diamond, plain balsa. Can’t seem to get that HHT sharpness.
I realize that I may have a lot more to learn on the sharpening, but also curious to know if anyone has an instinct on whether this razor is worth putting more work into, or maybe upgrading to something else.
I like Japanese razors the best. They generally have harder steel and heavier grinders. But they are expensive. Sheffield razors look the most badass but don't shave that great for me and are also expensive. The bulk of my collection is turn of the century German blades. I also have a bunch of American blades from New England and New York. Here's a thread I did on my favorite brand on B&B.starting to think about shaving my head again. i used to have a shaved head for many years but now the last few years i just use the trimmer.
i feel my iwasaki needs to be put to work.
also @stringer can you provide us with a list of your razors that you seem to have accumulated? and which ones you think are good?
I'm impressed. I've read reports from seasoned straight razor shavers who draw the line at doing their heads. Any tips? I don't need to do that myself right now, but it doesn't take a futurist to predict this trend.starting to think about shaving my head again. i used to have a shaved head for many years but now the last few years i just use the trimmer.
i feel my iwasaki needs to be put to work.
Iwasaki seems to have the "best kamisori" field all to himself these days. I don't even know who's in second place.Any Kamisori recommendations (value exceeding price more important than price)? Also a good finishing stone for razors? I shave my head regularly and keep a groomed beard, love my nice trimmers (Babyliss Pros).
Thanks for the help! This guy Keith V. Johnson on youtube cracks me up and seems to know his **** well. Zero nonsense guy and gives good advice. I guess I have to find a decent deal on a Iwasaki.Iwasaki seems to have the "best kamisori" field all to himself these days. I don't even know who's in second place.
Finishing stone for razors is a much more complicated topic. Among the synthetics, there's a Naniwa 12000 that people like, and also a particular Suehiro 20K, for which the caveat is that, while it is supremely effective at the job, it has almost no feedback whatsoever.
Then we get to the naturals. I cannot speak with any authority about the Arkansas stones and Coticules and jaspers and such, I can only give a warning based on some experience with seriously hard stones: be careful that once you get your edge so perfect that it makes suction against the stone and the water, you do not let it chatter. I've done some edge damage that way.
I use a JNat, but it was seriously expensive, bought from one of the recognized experts on this forum because I was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time when it was offered, and I feel fortunate to have it every time I use it, which is often. So that's no help.
There are people out there who say that you can take a green Asagi, a stone I love so much I somehow wound up with three of them, and slurry it with the Big 4 of Nagura types, and do as much with it as you could do with any Kiita or other JNat fine exotica, but I've personally never been able to make that work, try as I might. Maybe with the right tutorial...
I have an Andis. It is pretty great. I wanted to buy a Wahl but they only sell pet trimmers locally.love my nice trimmers
Any Kamisori recommendations (value exceeding price more important than price)?
There is clear consensus (through market pricing) that Iwasaki are desirable. In case @Rangen's point is not obvious, to make it clear for @Checkpure, 'best' is also a value judgement. Iwasaki are priced in the same way as Kato or Shigefua. You buy them out of an interest in the tradition and to celebrate a lineage of craftsmanship. Best performers? Not necessarily. Best availability? Definitely not. Best value? That is for you to judge... but likely not.Iwasaki seems to have the "best kamisori" field all to himself these days. I don't even know who's in second place.
Hey @4wa1l, my recommendation would be an entry line thiers issard or Dovo. They are not 'bottom of the barrel cheap'... but they are generally no-nonsense, use out the box razors.... (although you'd benefit from your own edge).Is there an equivalent razor to something like a Victorinox knife? Looking for a no-frills recommended starting point on a budget.
Iwasaki, Mr. Ryoichi Mizuochi showing Iwasaki honing - YouTubeWell thanks to the help of an awesome forum member I’ve got a Iwasaki and accessories on the way. Nothing like this site to get you spending at all hours. Excited though!