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Hi everyone I am looking for a very specific knife that may not exist - or the closest approximation. This will be for my wife who has different tastes than most...

What country are you in?
Australia

What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chef’s knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)? (What knife, if any, are you replacing?)
Her favourite knife is a 70mm petty/paring knife (global). The handle is too small for her and I think it would be better for the knife to be slightly bigger.

Are you right or left handed?
Right

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?
Only a western handle, furthermore she hates the touch of wood so I am hoping to get a resin handle.

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?
I think 100mm would be perfect, and 120mm would be the absolute maximum

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)
Yes, full stainless

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?
No around $300 aud or us $230 - to be honest I'd be expecting to pay half that given the requirements

KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?
Home and rarely

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)
Usually tomatoes and other small items, onion mushrooms things like that. She does not cook a lot.

edit - I will personally use it for trimming fat off boneless roasts and slicing them up. I like a small knife to work this with and I think it will be perfect.

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use?
Hammer, I may be able to teach her something else once we have a better handle

What cutting motions do you primarily use?
Chopping & slicing

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)
Better aesthetics, slightly bigger and a much better handle

Edge Retention (i.e., length of time you want the edge to last without sharpening)?
Don't mind, I do them each 3 months

Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board?
Plastic

Do you sharpen your own knives? (Yes or no.)
Yes, electronic on global and learning to whetstone my one good bunka. I will probably sharpen hers with the wetstone.

The only knife I can find that ticks boxes is here: 4.3 inch from here although the shape of it isn't excactly what I want.
Otherwise,
This is has the wrong handle
This is the wrong shape at 3.5 inches and slightly small, I think the full 5 inches is too big

Thanks
 
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Pakka wood is made of wood but is impregnated with resin. It's a type of ply wood. So yes it is wood but it also has a slick feel.
 
Pakka wood is made of wood but is impregnated with resin. It's a type of ply wood. So yes it is wood but it also has a slick feel.
My bunka has a Japanese handle and it is difficult to wash, or at least I don't chop meat with it because it needs to be submerged and the handle doesn't react that well. It became waterlogged and degraded the handle. Some oil fixed it up. I hope that makes sense.

So the handle won't feel like wood, that's great. But will it be able to be left in water? Will I need to treat it with mineral oil?

Additionally, do you consider it much better than the one I suggested?
 
What do you think of these?

https://kazsknifeonline.com.au/coll...san-silver-3-steel-kiritsuke-petty-knife-11cm
https://kazsknifeonline.com.au/coll...aring-knife-damascus-with-hammered-finish-8cm

So the handle won't feel like wood, that's great. But will it be able to be left in water? Will I need to treat it with mineral oil?

Pakkawood does not require any kind of oiling.

Pakkawood will handle "used with wet hands" or similar levels of wetness with no problems, but putting it in the dishwasher is likely to mess it up.
 
Sorry, but why do you need to submerge your handles? Just scrub them off, rinse, dry and move on.

For a wa (Japanese) handle, just make sure the tang slot is sealed and you keep it relatively oiled and you should never have that problem.

Also, I have to admit I'm not sure exactly what "feels like wood" really means. The way the wood is treated has a big impact on how it feels. I was just trying to offer some things for you to ponder and see if they fit your situation.
 
Sorry, but why do you need to submerge your handles? Just scrub them off, rinse, dry and move on.

For a wa (Japanese) handle, just make sure the tang slot is sealed and you keep it relatively oiled and you should never have that problem.

Also, I have to admit I'm not sure exactly what "feels like wood" really means. The way the wood is treated has a big impact on how it feels. I was just trying to offer some things for you to ponder and see if they fit your situation.

Submerging them, particularly after being used with meat is how I wash them. My wife in particular generally soaks anything she uses and waits for it to wash itself (me). I don't want to get a handle that I will deteriorate from this. The global are fine for example.

The Japanese handle is mine and I love it, just was trying to explain.

I am sorry I am having difficulty expressing myself... "Feels like wood" well my wife has a borderline phobia of splinters and for example can't hold ice cream sticks, and at restaurants asks me to remove meat from skewers etc. So I need to make sure if the handle is wood it feels like plastic.
 
What do you think of these?

https://kazsknifeonline.com.au/coll...san-silver-3-steel-kiritsuke-petty-knife-11cm
https://kazsknifeonline.com.au/coll...aring-knife-damascus-with-hammered-finish-8cm



Pakkawood does not require any kind of oiling.

Pakkawood will handle "used with wet hands" or similar levels of wetness with no problems, but putting it in the dishwasher is likely to mess it up.
- what do I think of those? Thanks for suggestion but I don't think she will like the shape/ tip (k-tip) and am looking for a more traditional knife

- I certainly won't dishwash it but want to be able to soak it in a sink
 
Submerging them, particularly after being used with meat is how I wash them. My wife in particular generally soaks anything she uses and waits for it to wash itself (me). I don't want to get a handle that I will deteriorate from this. The global are fine for example.

The Japanese handle is mine and I love it, just was trying to explain.

I am sorry I am having difficulty expressing myself... "Feels like wood" well my wife has a borderline phobia of splinters and for example can't hold ice cream sticks, and at restaurants asks me to remove meat from skewers etc. So I need to make sure if the handle is wood it feels like plastic.

This unfortunately isn't local to Aus, but what do you think of it?

https://miuraknives.com/japanese-kn...1314-japanese-knife-zanmai.html#/82-size-11cm
 
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In my opinion a petty isn't necessarily a good replacement for a paring knife. For me 90 mm max is optimal for paring knives.if she already likes a 70-80mm one I doubt she'd feel differently. So going to 100-120 mm isn't necessarily 'better'.
 
In my opinion a petty isn't necessarily a good replacement for a paring knife. For me 90 mm max is optimal for paring knives.if she already likes a 70-80mm one I doubt she'd feel differently. So going to 100-120 mm isn't necessarily 'better'.
True although I wonder with a proper handle if the pinch grip (which I use) can be used, which tends to shorten it a bit.
 
Hi everyone I am looking for a very specific knife that may not exist - or the closest approximation. This will be for my wife who has different tastes than most...

What country are you in?
Australia

What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chef’s knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)? (What knife, if any, are you replacing?)
Her favourite knife is a 70mm petty/paring knife (global). The handle is too small for her and I think it would be better for the knife to be slightly bigger.

Are you right or left handed?
Right

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?
Only a western handle, furthermore she hates the touch of wood so I am hoping to get a resin handle.

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?
I think 100mm would be perfect, and 120mm would be the absolute maximum

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)
Yes, full stainless

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?
No around $300 aud or us $230 - to be honest I'd be expecting to pay half that given the requirements

KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?
Home and rarely

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)
Usually tomatoes and other small items, onion mushrooms things like that. She does not cook a lot.

edit - I will personally use it for trimming fat off boneless roasts and slicing them up. I like a small knife to work this with and I think it will be perfect.

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use?
Hammer, I may be able to teach her something else once we have a better handle

What cutting motions do you primarily use?
Chopping & slicing

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)
Better aesthetics, slightly bigger and a much better handle

Edge Retention (i.e., length of time you want the edge to last without sharpening)?
Don't mind, I do them each 3 months

Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board?
Plastic

Do you sharpen your own knives? (Yes or no.)
Yes, electronic on global and learning to whetstone my one good bunka. I will probably sharpen hers with the wetstone.

The only knife I can find that ticks boxes is here: 4.3 inch from here although the shape of it isn't excactly what I want.
Otherwise,
This is has the wrong handle
This is the wrong shape at 3.5 inches and slightly small, I think the full 5 inches is too big

Thanks
Thread 'Yu Kurosaki & Takeshi Saji (AUS)' WTS - Yu Kurosaki & Takeshi Saji (AUS)
 
If your wife's favorite knife is that small Global parer, why not just get her a larger Global paring knife? In their classic line, there are 3 four inch paring knives to choose from and they all have larger handles than the tiny one your wife is currently using. The model numbers are: GS-40 (a more traditional western blade shape and handle), the GS-7 (pointy-stabby shape with a triangular handle), and GS-6 (santoku blade shape, triangular handle). Someone gave me a GS-7 many years ago, and it's a fun and cool looking knife. And you can leave it in the sink overnight or whatever and not have to worry about it too much.
 
True although I wonder with a proper handle if the pinch grip (which I use) can be used, which tends to shorten it a bit.
The problem with 100-120 petties / 'paring knives' is that they just become less good at in-hand stuff (for example coring / cutting pits out of potatoes), without really being significantly more useful at board work since they're still too short.
 
What stands out to me are the screwholes in the handle... good luck cleaning that when it gets dirty. Thickness behind the edge also looks like it's nothing to write home about.
 
At the risk of being ostracized, you're describing a Shun 3.5 inch Classic parer.

Around 100 us, you can try it at any kitchen store.
Thanks. I doubt I'm less than 2000miles/3000km from a physical one to try, and I didn't know pakkawood might work, thinking it was a type of wood.
 
My bunka has a Japanese handle and it is difficult to wash, or at least I don't chop meat with it because it needs to be submerged and the handle doesn't react that well. It became waterlogged and degraded the handle. Some oil fixed it up. I hope that makes sense.

So the handle won't feel like wood, that's great. But will it be able to be left in water? Will I need to treat it with mineral oil?

Additionally, do you consider it much better than the one I suggested?
Forget about the knife handle. This behavior is extremely dangerous. Submerging knives in a sink full of water and walking away from them might be the single most dangerous thing you can do with a blade in a kitchen. The next person (you, a houseguest, a child) that comes along reaches into the sink to pull the stopper or remove the clog and they stab themselves with the hidden knife requiring tendon surgery and months of recovery. No knives unattended in the sink is the number one rule of knife safety. It is one of the few things that it is an instantly fireable offense from me in a professional kitchen, an instant flunking grade for the semester in my culinary school classroom, and if my wife ever did it I would never wash the dishes again. My hands are my livelihood.
 
I totally missed that part. If you - or other people - are just going to dump it in the sink, just go with cheap garbage. If you're going to treat it like trash you might as well buy trash.
I have no qualms about liberally soaping and wetting pakkawood while washing but prolonged soaking? I doubt it's any good, and it's no bueno for the metal either. Remember it's stain-less, not stain-never. Handle wise I suppose stuff like G10, Micarta and Corian could probably stand up to it just fine, but it's still bad practise.
From a hygiene standpoint it also doesn't even make sense. Cleaning right after use with water and soap should be enough. If that doesn't do the job, all you achieve by a prolonged soak is simply spreading whatever you'd want to clean there around in your entire sink.

Stringer already adressed the safety issue better than I could. Trying to 'find a knife that survives your submerging habbits' is the wrong solution to the problem.
 
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