Masamoto KS at JCK

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  1. Jan 16, 2019 #1

    Casaluz

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    I got a notification that JCK had Masamoto KS gyutos in 4 different sizes back in stock last night at 11:24 pm
    and by this morning when I checked they were already sold out. Are they turning into the same of vanishing unicorns that the Shigefusas are? I have never handled a Shigefusa, however, I bitterly regret selling my Masamotos (and I hope the buyers love them, if not, send a ping about selling them back).

    Does anyone here know why they are so infrequently made by Masamoto?
     
  2. Jan 16, 2019 #2

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    Gyuto 270mm
    Gyuto 300mm
    Petty 165mm
    Suji 240mm

    Are in stock.

    Prices start to Be too much tbh
     
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    I think OP was referring to the WS #2 KS gyuto’s and not the Swedish stainless steel type, which have been available for a while.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2019 #4

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    Its now 2019 and Social media kills everything worth having.
     
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    Casaluz

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    Yes, I was referring to the KS
     
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    SW series 165 petty is $290... Ugh :(
     
  7. Jan 16, 2019 #7

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    240mm was available when I looked (about 15 mins after the email), snapped up rapidly by the hype train passengers, - who know it is absolutely, definitely the ultimate final to end all final batch of never-to-be-made again KS gyutos.
     
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    I saw the notice too last night, but honestly $420 for 240 seems way over priced for what it is. You are getting into customs range at this price, last time there was some supply of these they went for $325 - $360, which was already pretty expensive.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2019 #9

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    I’m okay w up to $350(saya) for a 240mm if I was looking.
    But I’m not.
    On the other hand did anybody notice a 270mm suji restock? I’d love to try one.
     
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    I paid 370 for mine about a year ago
     
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    To me this knife belongs to the group that was put on the hype wave. Friend of mine had the original one and was not impressed - in particular with the HT. I mean - this is a simple monosteel knife that thanks to its name just to its different profile.
     
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    The HT/steel performance is why I moved on but otherwise I enjoyed the KS. Oh, I didn’t care for the handle either.
     
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    How about $462 for stainless 240 gyuto?
     
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    I never understood the hype ...

    I bought one used in 2016, I think, for about $240 IIRC and traded it a year later ... edge holding is a joke and I just prefer taller blades anyway ...
     
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    You're approaching Mario ingoglia prices now which makes a better knife. Mine is custom specs and is my favorite one in the kit.
     
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    Yes. I’d actually argue that having a $400-500 custom gyuto made is the best bargain available in the market presently.
     
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    Nope nope nope
     
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    Back when they were garnering their rep, around ten years ago or so, they were one of the best knives one the market. A lot has changed since then and there is a lot more knives on the market now.
     
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    Theres still very little out there that is much better
    under $300 today...KS book was JDM ~27,500 yen 10 yrs ago
     
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    You can't touch a KS anywhere near $300 now and haven't been able to for years. There are several knives out there now as good or better in the same price range as the KS .
     
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    I was up at 1 in the morning when they came out and no 270 sujis were listed.
     
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    I have their 270mm suji if you want to give it a go @labor of love
     
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    $420 for a KS is a bit much ... even $350 I paid a while back seemed like much and I don't regret selling it. While it was a great performer, turns out I like other knives too ...
     
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    When i got to try one, the price wasn't outragous or inflated so I don't have bitterness about it.
    My point is its a knife that designed to be $250+tax and shipping and saya etc.

    For its design brief, not only was a good objective performer, but it was a good value.
     
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    I like mine fine. Koki is cool.. he honored a “2016 price” last January.. it’s not “really collectible”.. but I gues scarcity makes it so, now.

    Jury seems still out on last year’s version vs “old stock”. It’s my last laser-ish monosteel knife. It fits that role... I just can’t get over what they want for the stainless KS .. vs Ashi or others..
     
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    I got mine in 2012 and they were around $340 even then. That was long before the scarcity hit and even the over hype.
     
  28. Jan 18, 2019 #28

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    @QCDawg did you check korins price on swed KS? I’m pretty sure with a 15% off sale theyre having/had the swed was $340-350 just a week ago.
    Also, I paid $332-350 for like 3 diff KS’s this time last year.
     
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    I remember paying $199 for a stainless KS three years ago on Rakuten. :(
     
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    Definitely. Same thing goes for Marko's and Harner's gyutos!
     

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