this is getting closer to something i'd like. some kind of good filling (i enjoy pudding, custard could be good too) and maybe a lighter application of frosting (better yet crème pâtissière or something).
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this is getting closer to something i'd like. some kind of good filling (i enjoy pudding, custard could be good too) and maybe a lighter application of frosting (better yet crème pâtissière or something).
Apocalypse
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This sounds to me like nobody has ever done you the favor of giving you real and good Korean chicken. Because this is heresy otherwise.
Keith Sinclair
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When read couple books on how to eat if suffer from high blood sugar & pre diabetics they explained how it happens what it does to your
body & how to turn it around. When added up
daily sugar intake was surprised. Love Ginger
Drank Agave sweetened Strong ginger flavor ginger ale, also lots of orange juice. Loved drinking juices. Some had sugar added. Thought was eating ok found just the opposite. Tomato sauce, ketchup, most processed food in America is loaded with sugar, had to add that too.
Decided to try going off sugar. So read labels carefully. That eliminated almost everything.
Found how many products have high fructose corn syrup because cheaper than sugar. All the
artificial sweeteners just as bad or worse than sugar.
Not trying to be
so keep it short cut out sugar & processed foods. Didn't starve at all.
Lost 35# in two months. Wasn't going to buy new clothes so bought shorter belts.
Also for your health research refined sweeteners how play havoc to your system & WHY
It has gotten so much worse in recent decades
Obese children more the norm instead of rare cases. It's an education. It has nothing to do with counting calories. Sugar is as addictive as cocaine.
body & how to turn it around. When added up
daily sugar intake was surprised. Love Ginger
Drank Agave sweetened Strong ginger flavor ginger ale, also lots of orange juice. Loved drinking juices. Some had sugar added. Thought was eating ok found just the opposite. Tomato sauce, ketchup, most processed food in America is loaded with sugar, had to add that too.
Decided to try going off sugar. So read labels carefully. That eliminated almost everything.
Found how many products have high fructose corn syrup because cheaper than sugar. All the
artificial sweeteners just as bad or worse than sugar.
Not trying to be
so keep it short cut out sugar & processed foods. Didn't starve at all. Lost 35# in two months. Wasn't going to buy new clothes so bought shorter belts.
Also for your health research refined sweeteners how play havoc to your system & WHY
It has gotten so much worse in recent decades
Obese children more the norm instead of rare cases. It's an education. It has nothing to do with counting calories. Sugar is as addictive as cocaine.
WiriWiri
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This sounds to me like nobody has ever done you the favor of giving you real and good Korean chicken. Because this is heresy otherwise.
FFS, London has pretty much the largest expat Korean community per capita anywhere outside of Korea, with suburban Raynes Park/Koreatown home to about 20k alone. Fair to say that we’ve some excellent Korean food and some particularly wonderful BBQ restaurants, acclaimed by Korean expats and visitors alike
London admittedly has a lot of chicken mind - it’s unlikely you’ll ever be more than 100 yards from a fried chicken joint in most of the capital, youttube fulling of penging fried chicken reviews. And whilst I like Korean Fried chicken, I can’t help but feel that it sometimes get too much acclaim and an easy ride from more respectable critics - yes, it’s crunchier. But it’s not some new innovative markedly different product - it’s still tastily, satisfyingly unhealthy FC, only you have to pay at least twice as much and wait longer. And yep, sometimes I‘d prefer a quick bag of Morley’s finest without the hassle.
Better value and more remarkable chicken experiences lie elsewhere imo. Mama Lan‘s satisfying chilli oil wings, the Gallery‘s proper piri pirii in the day, Braii wings from ML and many, many more,. I’ll still eat (and enjoy) Korean Fried chicken without hesitation, but it’s an outgunned contender rather than a new chicken paradigm over here.
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The main problem IMO was that for a long time all the advice from health board, government institutions, and even the 'medical world' was bascially 'fat = bad, carbs = good'. While some of the research and advice might have been skewed by certain interest groups I think the biggest problem was that most of it was based on crap science. If you look up the research it's all based on it's surprising it was preached as gospel for so long. I don't think you can explain it away as 'bad intentions' from all involved, as a lot of those people meant well; they just had the science wrong.
What's worrying though is that..well... things didn't improve all THAT much on a lot of fronts. We still see far reaching statements and advice being given on dubious nutrition research; virtually none of it is experimental research and it's not that hard to come up with a list of problems that essentially renders the presented conclusions as meaningless. You see a lot of this nowadays with 'red meat bad' or 'meat is bad' kind of research, where I feel like a lot of people are interpreting research through 'ideological goggles'.
I think fruit juices were the most surprising to me as being potentially problematic. Like many I grew up with the idea that stuff like orange juice is really healthy and good for you. It's loaded with vitamin C and even grandma is saying it so it must be true right?When read couple books on how to eat if suffer from high blood sugar & pre diabetics they explained how it happens what it does to your
body & how to turn it around. When added up
daily sugar intake was surprised. Love Ginger
Drank Agave sweetened Strong ginger flavor ginger ale, also lots of orange juice. Loved drinking juices. Some had sugar added. Thought was eating ok found just the opposite. Tomato sauce, ketchup, most processed food in America is loaded with sugar, had to add that too.
Decided to try going off sugar. So read labels carefully. That eliminated almost everything.
Found how many products have high fructose corn syrup because cheaper than sugar. All the
artificial sweeteners just as bad or worse than sugar.
Not trying to be
Lost 35# in two months. Wasn't going to buy new clothes so bought shorter belts.
Also for your health research refined sweeteners how play havoc to your system & WHY
It has gotten so much worse in recent decades
Obese children more the norm instead of rare cases. It's an education. It has nothing to do with counting calories. Sugar is as addictive as cocaine.
Even in the government guidelines nowadays fruit juice gets the cold shoulder.
In general I think that 'avoid processed stuff' is both the most easy and most effective nutrition advice one can give. Start making your own food from scratch with recognizable ingredients and it's almost impossible to eat unhealthy. There's just so much junk in most of the premade and processed crap (not just in America). The problem is that a lot of people don't necessarily have the time for that, and in a lot of places getting access to quality ingredients isn't necessarily a given either.
The second 'easy win' is to just give up juice and soda and simply drink water. Those play a huge role in making kids fat since it's incredibly easy to overconsume calories with sugary drinks. Saves money too!
Keith Sinclair
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Yes water. Make green tea by the gallon drink it cold actually prefer it now with no sugar.
Whole fruits
for the fiber. Had to give up dried fruits. Lots of nuts for snacks high in natural fats, still can't gain any weight.
Lots of fresh vegetables & seafood not the battered stuff. Steamed or fried in the skillet.
Only complex carbs in smaller portions.
Whole fruits
for the fiber. Had to give up dried fruits. Lots of nuts for snacks high in natural fats, still can't gain any weight. Lots of fresh vegetables & seafood not the battered stuff. Steamed or fried in the skillet.
Only complex carbs in smaller portions.
Apocalypse
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Well I'm in southern California so I doubt you have more Koreans than we have here. Not that I say that for competition at all, bit if you're ever in the area I'd love to treat you. Because it's not just crunchier, but juicier and packing much more flavor. If you still felt that way after wards I'd be surprised.
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Underrated foods also warrant their own thread IMO...
After a holiday from proper bread we just got some good bread (Rober for the Dutch) ,
After a holiday from proper bread we just got some good bread (Rober for the Dutch) ,
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Yes please!
That bread looks great. A slice of fresh bread with nothing but butter and a few flakes of salt is one of the most satisfying gourmet foods in the world.
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I started a thread for underrated foods ;-)
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Is it a saying in english too; don't praise the day before sunset?
dont rightly know, but the meaning translates well.
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Another thing that just came to mind... really dark chocolate. While I can enjoy chocolate in a lot of different forms or 'strengths', whether it's milk chocolate, the midrange or anything up to 70%... once it goes beyond 70% it just becomes too bitter for my taste, even if it's good chocolate. Maybe people with different palates than mine perceive this different to me but no mater how much I tried if I was being honest the really high % stuff just wasn't as enjoyable as the <70% stuff.
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O yes, dark chocolate! My observation is similar, around 70=80% is optimal for my taste but anything over that seems to lose flavor and complexity.
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Ever go to CheeMc on the Walworth Road? Cracker of a place! Closed for a while after the busybody hygiene inspectors decided it was obeying neither the letter nor the spirit of the law. But back open I believe now, and with fewer rat droppings in the batter.
And yes, also - Morleys
Apocalypse
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Potato salad. Sure I've had one or two that were decent. But 99% of the time it's terrible and made by people that have no idea what good flavor or balance is.
Keith Sinclair
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Ditto on dark chocolate like just a little bitter.
Ever had German potato salad served warm?
Pretty good. Worked with German chef doing banquets. Was popular item on hot line chafing
pans.
Ever had German potato salad served warm?
Pretty good. Worked with German chef doing banquets. Was popular item on hot line chafing
pans.
I'll go one further and say France is an overrated food country. People rave about how "sophisticated" the food is here. The reality is that it is bland and overcooked. The French themselves will admit that they are terrified of spices. And the beef is tougher than I am.
OK, the bread is amazing, and so is the cheese. But I never eat out in France anymore because it always disappoints.
Keith Sinclair
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Fake meat often has not so healthy ingredients.
Often packaging covered with no GMO, low fat, etc. Is not healthy at all.
Often packaging covered with no GMO, low fat, etc. Is not healthy at all.
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Do you include Alsace in that? I spent some time there, some years ago, and was stunned by how good the food was.
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Honestly it's ribeye I find highly overrated.
DitmasPork
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Ribeye are wonderful steaks, albeit terribly overrated. TBH I’d get bored cooking and eating just ribeye steak.Honestly it's ribeye I find highly overrated.
Love the character, beefiness of a paleron (flat iron), reasonably priced—big fan of the chewy gristle bit that runs through it.
Last weeks grilled paleron:
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Keith Sinclair
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Instation crab - just molded highly processed
fish cake with soy, sugar, & MSG to make it taste good.
fish cake with soy, sugar, & MSG to make it taste good.
This is the problem with sprinkles in North America. I only trust the Dutch stuff, the Hagelslag and the Muisjes.
That's a real deal.
wow. popular and eaten on buttered toast? never heard of those. sounds like something worth trying.
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we (well our kids mostly) eat that stuff on a slice of bread, toast, 'beschuit'(zwieback), or anything...beware, there is a load of brands that sell sugar with a chocolat content that is quite low, aim for the better brands and 'puur' (higher chocolate content >54%)
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I think technically you can't call it a flat iron if it isn't split lengthwise so you don't have the gristle? But yeah, very underrated cut. Over here it's generally only used for simmering and stewing. Cheap as dirt. It's one of the cheap cuts that I used to teach myself how to prep steaks; all the principles are the same, you just have a little piece in the center that you have to eat around... But the meat part itself is really good. Thanks for the reminder... this is going on the shopping list again.
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Honestly it's ribeye I find highly overrated.
I think technically you can't call it a flat iron if it isn't split lengthwise so you don't have the gristle? But yeah, very underrated cut. Over here it's generally only used for simmering and stewing. Cheap as dirt. It's one of the cheap cuts that I used to teach myself how to prep steaks; all the principles are the same, you just have a little piece in the center that you have to eat around... But the meat part itself is really good. Thanks for the reminder... this is going on the shopping list again.
Yeah, you’re right, Flat Iron typically cut lengthwise, omitting the connective tissue, but I’ve seen it cut both ways with and without the gristle—depending on the butcher. Top blade (flat iron) really packs a lotta flavor!
