Sakai Takayuki (early era?)

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hi all!
Im completely touching into the dark here.
Can someone tell me anything about these two knifes? I bought them on an auction
With no description what so ever…
 

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It looks like laser kanji not hand chiseled, so maybe new. For example Sakai Takayuki Hienn ( made by Itsuo doi) The previous version used hand pressed logos and now Sakai Takayuki uses laser kanji.
 
It looks like laser kanji not hand chiseled, so maybe new. For example Sakai Takayuki Hienn ( made by Itsuo doi) The previous version used hand pressed logos and now Sakai Takayuki uses laser kanji.
Thanks Se1ryu! The kanji on the front side is definitely handwork, on the inside of the blade however (on the deba it could be Laser, one the other big 270mm knife it looks like stamped).
 
The deba is a togashi one from some time in the 90‘s or 2000‘s. The mioroshi was forged earlier but was ground, marked and sold at the same time. They dropped the touroku kanji soon after.

The mioroshi may be a Doi one. Pop the handle off, if you see a rhombic stamp or the number 37 it’s a Doi.

Kanji on the back of knives are rarely ever chiseled. Stamps are the norm for high quality lines. Cheap stuff comes without stamps.
 
There’s a lot of his work still around as dead stock or new old stock. He did everything but Deba and the keijiro hype was only ever for Yanagiba. If you buy usuba (not kamagata) or other stuff that’s not super common (fuguhiki as well) from the tokujo or blue 2 series there is still a chance that even new ones are keijiros. Mostly it’s Togashi now though.
 
Well im a Doi collector so I’m so happy with this finding!
Do you have any information on the number 38 stamp as I regularly see this number but don’t know who the maker is connected to this stamp?

And here is another mystery (see picture)
 

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38 is Togashi but no idea about your mystery one. I may be able to ask someone, it will take some time though. They rarely keep records and such, identifying stamps are up to the craftsmen and get forgotten about easily.
 
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