Shapton 320 replacement

[Taurahe]

What is a better option than the Shapton 320g stone? I've never really liked it , and wouldn't mind replacing it with something better ..... If it matters, I'm not really sure why I don't like it, I just don't . I know that's not helpful, but I think it lies in feedback and while working on it .

Splash and go is preferred , but I was looking at the king 300 as an option just because . What say ye ?

 

[sanmateo]

I have both the shapton pro 220 (moss green) and the SG 320, and find myself reaching for the shapton pro every time. Dishes faster tho. Haven’t tried the others you mentioned.

 

[Taurahe]

I have both the shapton pro 220 (moss green) and the SG 320, and find myself reaching for the shapton pro every time. Dishes faster tho. Haven’t tried the others you mentioned.

My whole kit is all Shapton ..... 320, 1000, 5k, 8k . Mine are kuromaku ( same as pro , just Japanese market). What do you like about the 220 over the 320? I also started with the SG stones and honestly hated the glass line. I gave them tona friend

 

[M1k3]

King 300 is a pretty hard stone. Has a tendency to glaze over.
Nanohone 200 perhaps?

 

[JKerr]

Yeah, I have a King 300 and it glazes like crazy. If I'm using it for thinning I find myself having to constantly pass it over a diamond stone to get it cutting again. Love the King deluxe 1k and hyper 2k but I wouldn't recommend the 300 personally. Only other course stones I've used are Shaptons as well so I can't be of much use. I've heard good things about the Suehiro Debado range, although can be inconsistent in the lowest grits.

 

[Szyclops]

Have heard good things about the Cerax 320 and Atoma 400 but I haven't used them myself. I'm sure a more knowledgeable forum member can chime in on these as they might offer what you're looking for.

 

[jacobwilder5]

You looking for something around the same price? What are you primarily using it for?

 

[MartinJ]

I never tried the 320 but i didn't like the 220 at all...
Dishes right under your eyes and after 20 minutes of pretty ineffective thinning you can take a bath in it.
Maybe had a bad one but still

 

[SwampDonkey]

I don't particularly like my SP 320 either. Find it slow and pretty quick to dish, though I like the muddy scratch pattern well enough. Shapton Glass 120 has been a surprising delight, if you're looking for metal remover. I can get better edges off it than the SP 320 too.

Are you looking for a replacement on thinning or resetting bevels/low grit sharpening or bit of both? My new Rockstar 500 (new shapton glass) is faster than the SP 320 just for edges. Haven't tried to thin with it yet though

 

[Benuser]

Can't tell about the Shapton Pro 320, but the Glass is my preferred thinning stone. Wears slowly, can be flattened with the Atoma 140. gives a bit of mud, even some feedback. I use the Shapton Puck with it for heavier thinning rather than the SG220 I rarely use.

 

[Mr.Wizard]

How is the RockStar 320 doing compared to other splash and go options? Amazon (Japan) has them for under $33 and I am tempted.

 

[Cliff]

I love SG320. Rockstar is very similar. I appreciate them as being useful thinning stones and good to start edges on a civilian's knife or putting a first edge on new knife that comes with a crappy edge. If you don't like it, my first question would be, what are your goals? Is it primarily for thinning? Cerax 320 is maybe a bit faster but dishes a lot and has to be soaked. I love my Debado 180 for heavy thinning. I think it plays well with the SG320, but you could easily jump over the 320. If you want something similarly versatile, what about Chosera 400? I don't know that it's better, but you might like it more.

 

[petty_creek]

NSK Oboro 200 if money is no barrier.

 

[rickbern]

I’ve had a jns 300 for years which is a pretty good stone in this range. Feels a fair bit finer than the 300 grit designation would indicate

https://www.japanesenaturalstones.com/jns-300-matukusuyama/

If you don’t mind soaking, this guy is a classic. Dishes a fair bit but it’s sorta worth the trouble

https://www.japaneseknifeimports.co...6B23AqjmmIASBJcFEM2rWOWM4dE6mtm-fqHNo7xBeeJ6K

These two stones represent the two poles of this category of stones to me, one soft, one hard. I’d take a chance on the gesshin if you don’t like your shapton, I think it’s a good contrast to your existing stone.

Note, I wouldn’t use either one of these as a primary thinning stone. There’s like a line in the sand at about 250, below that you thin, above that you set bevels.

 

[stringer]

The only water stone I occasionally use for thinning is SG 120. Fairly glaze and dish resistant. Roughly the same speed as my Crystolon Coarse on clad knives. Easier scratches to remove. It replaced the Debado 180 for me.

 

[calibrated_octopus]

If you don’t mind soaking, this guy is a classic. Dishes a fair bit but it’s sorta worth the trouble

https://www.japaneseknifeimports.co...6B23AqjmmIASBJcFEM2rWOWM4dE6mtm-fqHNo7xBeeJ6K

This looks like the Imanishi(?) latte 400. I wonder if they’re the same stone since the Gesshins are a made for JKI line?