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  1. Aug 16, 2019 #14071

    Jon-cal

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    New to me TF picked up from BST (thanks @drsmp !). This is the first TF I’ve tried. I see lots of comments about wonky fit and finish and crappy grinds with TF but that’s certainly not the case with this one :)

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  2. Aug 16, 2019 #14072

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    Another happy customer. Wait until you cut something. TFTFTFTF
     
  3. Aug 16, 2019 #14073

    Brian Weekley

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    My new knife in action. Courtesy of thebradleycrew and KKF an amazing Tillman 240 gyuto. I’m so happy that I made an exception to my normal practice of buying only knives made by Japanese masters. The patina and handle called to me so I took the plunge. Am I ever glad I did. This is one seriously nice knife. It’s a user and has gone straight to a permanent member of my non rotating rotation. First use was tonight’s boneless leg of lamb. Check out the 1/8” slices! Effortlessly cut. The bonus part ... somebody at thebradleycrew knows what he is doing with the stones. The first thing I do when I unpack a new knife is a thumbnail test. That’s generally followed by pulling out my stones and touching up the edge. ... not so with this baby! I’ve been sharpening for over 50 years and can’t put a better edge on a blade than thebradleycrew put on this blade before he shipped. What a great experience! Thanks KKF.

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  4. Aug 16, 2019 #14074

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  5. Aug 16, 2019 #14075

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    Man, you’ve really been going to town on BST lately. :) I’m jealous and inspired. Keep the posts coming!
     
  6. Aug 16, 2019 #14076

    daddy yo yo

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    I had an eye on this knife myself. I found that combination particularly appealing. Happy for you, enjoy it!
     
  7. Aug 16, 2019 #14077

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    Congrats, that Tillman is fantastic.
     
  8. Aug 16, 2019 #14078

    Brian Weekley

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    When you join a paddock full of thoroughbreds you can’t help but get a bit frisky!
     
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  9. Aug 17, 2019 #14079

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    Yeah... sure. I've had the opportunity to test a few different knives in 14c28n (which i believe is the only variant i've seen on the market), and have even had the opportinity to test 14c28n and 13c26 from the same craftsman side-by-side. I found that they sharpened differently (the 13c26 was a bit easier for me to sharpen and got a bit sharper), felt different on the stones, and the edge feel in cutting was also different enough that i noticed (with two knives from the same craftsman ground as close to the same as i have seen from any craftsman).

    You will also note that i said they are quite different in terms of makeup. The nigrogen alone can be enough for that statement to be true.

    I still dont understand why i'm arguing with you about this? You make crazy comments based on things you've read or heard, and I wish that kind of thing would be less prevalent around here, as it leads to a lot of falsehoods being regurgitated as well as to the development of fundamental misunderstandings that end up being rather common around here.

    For what its worth, one could make the argument that blue #2 and white #2 are pretty much the same... i mean they both sharpen easily, are relatively simple carbon steels, get quite sharp, etc. But they arent the same and it doesnt make sense to make a comment like well white#2≠blue#2 but its pretty close.
     
  10. Aug 17, 2019 #14080
    14c28n was developed by Sandvik based on the composition of 13c26. Kershaw knives was having pitting problems on the blades that were bead blasted, the new alloy with the added CR and N added, was for higher corrosion resistance.

    It was intended to have similar characteristics as the previous grade but with pitting resistance.

    I also would have thought that they would act similarly.

    Thanks Jon for adding such valuable information here.

    Much love and respect,

    Hoss
     
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  11. Aug 17, 2019 #14081

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    Keep going...

    What does "designed to have the edge properties of 13c26" mean?

    You can see Sandvik reference this in its own product literature:
    Funny how even 12c27 belongs in the same sentence as 13c26 and 14c28n?

    IMHO the abstraction of "sweedish stainless steel" (fine grain) into a set {...} that includes both 13c26 and 14c28n is fine.
     
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  12. Aug 17, 2019 #14082

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    All sandvik steels belong in the same family. none or very little Mo/V/W/Nb/Co, lowish carbon stainless. as simple as it gets.

    the 14c28N is a nitrogen alloyed steel. nitrogen increases stain resistance and is also substitutes carbon when hardening it. there are even steels with no carbon at all, just nitrogen. you just have to be careful with times and temperatures since nitrogen is a gas and carbon is a solid. so it dont diffuse out.
     
  13. Aug 18, 2019 #14083

    Brian Weekley

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    On its way to me ... I’m so excited I may have to break out a new Depends .... ok I know ... too much information! So here’s the deal. Will Newham is making some amazing knives at ridiculously low prices in Tasmania. Don’t know where it is ... look it up! This is a 270mm sujihiki. He has agreed to make me a saya for it so shipping will be delayed but when it arrives I have a brisket that is dying to be smoked and carved. Stay tuned!

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  14. Aug 18, 2019 #14084

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    Not very exciting, but wanted to give one of these a try. Pretty incredible for $32. Love the profile, and the finish on the blade is outstanding. Will put it to work tonight.

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  15. Aug 18, 2019 #14085

    Brian Weekley

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    Got one in my knife block. There are jobs that I wouldn’t trust to any of my other knives. When I am out cooking for friends or relatives I often give them this knife when they want to help.
     
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  16. Aug 18, 2019 #14086
    @HRC_64 - your last answer does not even contain an argument. The text you quote is making a point in comparing 440 type of steel (most likely the 440C was meant here which was not optimized for small grain) to a family of fine grained steels. That does not mean that they are all the same. And if you want to get a better idea of how less that 0.1% of alloying elements can change properties of steel, the get the book by Verhoeven about Damascus steel.
     
  17. Aug 19, 2019 #14087

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    Nice response.

    Dude is arguing with a professional who has almost certainly sharpened 10s of thousands of knives at this point about the feel of knife steels he's never done a side by side comparison of. Makes no sense and his point you respond to didn't either.

    OK back to ogling other peoples' purchases.
     
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  18. Aug 19, 2019 #14088

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    There's a reason it's in so many professional kitchens.

    If you think about it, the competition at this price point is absolutely brutal. Way more than any of the high end stuff we buy. Gotta really be doing something special to have the reputation it does.
     
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  19. Aug 19, 2019 #14089

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    Ok i will start 0819191437a.jpg 0819191437.jpg
     
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  20. Aug 19, 2019 #14090

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  21. Aug 19, 2019 #14091

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    My first choil shot. Constructive criticism/ technique advice would be welcome.
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  22. Aug 19, 2019 #14092

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    Looks great. Very nice.
     
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  23. Aug 19, 2019 #14093

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    You should never say exit-knife.

    Gyuto by Marco Guldimann: Guldimann-steel (1.35% C, Nb, W) with 1.2714 cladding and unreal banding, 65 HRC, 224 mm, apple tree from my garden and giraffe bone handle and saya.

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  24. Aug 19, 2019 #14094

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    I told you already: this one is gorgeous!
     
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  25. Aug 19, 2019 #14095

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    Another Halcyonforge, this one 243x53.4mm and 176g. "Spicy white" core, wrought iron cladding, east indian rosewood burl handle. Spine is 3.5mm at the handle, 3.3mm above heel, 1.5mm in the middle, and 0.9mm @1cm from the tip. One of the first knives coming off his new power hammer xD. Lighter than my other Halcyonforge and steel feels very different too. Final edge geometry and finish are mine (I got it off the belt + a bit of atoma work by Joe).

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  26. Aug 19, 2019 #14096

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    NICE! Is the cladding raised from the core??? :confused: The photos make it look 3D. :p
     
  27. Aug 19, 2019 #14097

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  28. Aug 19, 2019 #14098

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    88880F99-BA28-4420-A2C0-5FAED225DF8E.jpeg I’ve been on a buying spree since joining here, and this is definitely one of the least expensive purchases I’ve made since being on that spree. This is the first photo I’ve gotten around to sharing. This knife blows me away for the price!
     
  29. Aug 19, 2019 #14099

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    Who makes it? It has a nice little profile.
     
  30. Aug 20, 2019 #14100

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    This is one of the Mazaki’s sold by KnS, hence the handle. I bought it off the BST, these knives seem like a great value!
     

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