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King 700????


Haha... As the forum's no.1 fan of 700 grit stones I can just imagine your ears pricking up at this idea.


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How do polishing stones differ from edge stones?

A lot comes from personal preferences. All of the below are generalizations and should be treated as such.

Softer stones tend to work better for polishing, as the mud fills in low spots to give a more even and consistent finish. Harder stones tend to be preferred for edges as they stay flatter in use since less abrasive is released, so the edge can be more precise and deliberate.

Binder and abrasive type can also impact the finish a stone leaves, and some are more geared towards producing beautiful finishes and might "burnish" rather than "cut" vs other stones that might look to remove metal quickly. "Contrast" between core steel and cladding is what a lot of people look for when finding stones to maintain kasumi finishes, but some stones can brighten up the edge steel and some are more misty.
 

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Love those old boxes

Don't you be coming after my old triangle boxes, yeah? ;)


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Its in nice condition and will hopefully come in handy


A medium slip like that I'm sure will be very useful, and it's an interesting stone in another way too. If everybody's strapped in then here's another interesting Norton Abrasives learning experience for y'all. Below is copied a post I made a while back on B&B...

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Welwyn Garden City is a slightly random town about an hour north of London about which I know nothing, except that there is a direct train from there to Hoxton hipsterville, and that in 1929 it was chosen* by Norton Abrasives to be the home of their headquarters and distribution in the UK, opening in 1931: Welwyn Garden City Heritage Trust - Gallery - Norton Grinding Wheel Ltd - https://www.welwyngarden-heritage.org/photo-gallery/category/36-norton-grinding-wheel-ltd

The reason for establishing a subsidiary company for distribution and production in the UK was effectively to exploit a tax loophole I believe; it opened a large number of potential commonwealth (and later European) markets for Norton to trade into, without certain tariffs that would have been applied to an American company. In fact I came across this information a while back when wondering why there were so many old Norton Washitas/Arks/Indias here in Australia, and then noticed that boxed examples tended to be labelled 'Norton Abrasives - Welwyn Garden City'.

The UK facility appears to have closed in 1982, we can see here the job losses being debated in Parliament at the time: Norton Abrasives Ltd - Tuesday 13 July 1982 - Hansard - UK Parliament - https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/1982-07-13/debates/e674f997-1716-4086-b343-102ad523e847/NortonAbrasivesLtd

So basically... that's a lot of the reason that the UK (and probably many Commonwealth, or former Commonwealth countries) prove fertile hunting grounds for nice old Norton stones. I myself have found two old boxed Norton Hard/Translucents, and two old Washitas in the last couple of months for very little money compared to what you might pay in other countries.


* Perhaps my favourite bit of this story is the perfect nominative determinism that has Mr. Frank Emery as one of the team of high-ranking specialists sent over to find a suitable production facility site.
 
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Don't you be coming after my old triangle boxes, yeah? ;)





A medium slip like that I'm sure will be very useful, and it's an interesting stone in another way too. If everybody's strapped in then here's another interesting Norton Abrasives learning experience for y'all. Below is copied a post I made a while back on B&B...

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Welwyn Garden City is a slightly random town about an hour north of London about which I know nothing, except that there is a direct train from there to Hoxton hipsterville, and that in 1929 it was chosen* by Norton Abrasives to be the home of their headquarters and distribution in the UK, opening in 1931: Welwyn Garden City Heritage Trust - Gallery - Norton Grinding Wheel Ltd - https://www.welwyngarden-heritage.org/photo-gallery/category/36-norton-grinding-wheel-ltd

The reason for establishing a subsidiary company for distribution and production in the UK was effectively to exploit a tax loophole I believe; it opened a large number of potential commonwealth (and later European) markets for Norton to trade into, without certain tariffs that would have been applied to an American company. In fact I came across this information a while back when wondering why there were so many old Norton Washitas/Arks/Indias here in Australia, and then noticed that boxed examples tended to be labelled 'Norton Abrasives - Welwyn Garden City'.

The UK facility appears to have closed in 1982, we can see here the job losses being debated in Parliament at the time: Norton Abrasives Ltd - Tuesday 13 July 1982 - Hansard - UK Parliament - https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/1982-07-13/debates/e674f997-1716-4086-b343-102ad523e847/NortonAbrasivesLtd

So basically... that's a lot of the reason that the UK (and probably many Commonwealth, or former Commonwealth countries) prove fertile hunting grounds for nice old Norton stones. I myself have found two old boxed Norton Hard/Translucents, and two old Washitas in the last couple of months for very little money compared to what you might pay in other countries.


* Perhaps my favourite bit of this story is the perfect nominative determinism that has Mr. Frank Emery as one of the team of high-ranking specialists sent over to find a suitable production facility site.
I was wondering about the UK manufacturing. Thanks for the information!

Is there any difference between the manufacturing and/or quality of the USA vs UK stones?
 

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My Nano Hone 200 is getting thin, so I decided to get some other coarse stones. I just got the Suehiro Debado MD-20 and the Suehiro GC-3. These stones seem huge to me.
 

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Haha... As the forum's no.1 fan of 700 grit stones I can just imagine your ears pricking up at this idea.


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After having used it quite a bit, I can say that I am not a fan. It dishes fast, way too muddy, slow cutting, and feels too smooth for a 700 grit stone. Smoother than king 1000. If you’re interested in it, I can sell it to you for a much lower price than what I bought it for.
 

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After having used it quite a bit, I can say that I am not a fan. It dishes fast, way too muddy, slow cutting, and feels too smooth for a 700 grit stone. Smoother than king 1000. If you’re interested in it, I can sell it to you for a much lower price than what I bought it for.
Thanks for the offer, but I don't think the shipping costs to Germany are in proportion to the value of the stone.

Your description sounds really disappointing, I expected more from the stone - based on the King Stones I know.
 

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Hello sharpening and polishing geeks.

Over the last few months I've picked up a few natural stones. The gray one was found in the Alps in Austria near a hotel that we stayed in. It was flattened and the cracks were filled in. The second one is from a friend of mine that is an unknown hard sandstone. Both stones are hard, but the gray one is very hard. They are very different in the feel, but seem to give a similar result. Hazy semi mirror finish.
 

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Not new gear. My newest set-up. Been using this combo for some months now after some (for me)great results. Atoma 140 and 400, for flattening only. Right to left. Shapton 500, not needed for every sharpening. Watanabe #1000 always used. Iyoto jnat, always used and finisher for most. Okudo shiro suita, incredible stone, leaves refined edge with so much bite. Naguras used on finishing stone, and strop home made loaded with yellow flexcut compound
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Great setup for big workloads. I often wondered if they dish fast or slow, how they are flattened

My initial though is that it will dish pretty rapidly. Shouldn’t be all that tough to flatten while running with a regular plate for the 1000.

I have a sh!t Diamond plate I’ll use for the 180.

I’ll end up using a pencil to find the high spots and work them down
 
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