Supreme Sanjo and Top Tosa?

[HumbleHomeCook]

Okay KKF, what do you rate the best out of Sanjo and/or Tosa?

Can be any knife type/size and by all means list different ones if you'd like, i.e. best gyuto, best petty, etc.

I would ask that you confine it to widely available knives and not real rare or highly expensive items.

 

[More_Gyutos]

Yoshikane and Tetsujin. But my experience with Tosa smiths and knife makers is pretty limited. Wakui is my value pick for Sanjo.

 

[blokey]

Technically Myojin and Tadokoro are from Tosa.

 

[More_Gyutos]

Technically Myojin and Tadokoro are from Tosa.

Yes, I’m replying for both locations.

 

[M1k3]

Toyamnabe, Mazaki (if you find the right one for you), Yoshikane (if the profile works for you) and Wakui are hard to beat at their price points.

 

[iimi]

My most fun knives are yoshikane and nihei, the nihei is probably a little more fun because of the extra weight for me.

 

[HumbleHomeCook]

Is Mazaki a must try?

 

[M1k3]

Is Mazaki a must try?

Maybe.

 

[blokey]

BTW there’s Nihei in stock at Bernal.
https://bernalcutlery.com/products/...-gyuto-sld-ku-30393338?variant=42515521077469

 

[daveb]

Is Mazaki a must try?

I tried a few for you. Yawn.

Every Tosa I've tried would rather rust than cut.

 

[HumbleHomeCook]

I tried a few for you. Yawn.

Every Tosa I've tried would rather rust than cut.

Thanks Dave. I guess there's a reason my gut has always told my finger to keep on scrolling when they pop up.

 

[SwampDonkey]

Is Mazaki a must try?

I spent about 6 hours thinning my brand new 240 just to make it usable and I'm still not particularly impressed. At this point I'm kinda committed to it as a project knife since I botched resale value but I wish I had put that $300 elsewhere to be honest.

 

[tostadas]

Plenty of sanjo smiths already mentioned, no need to repeat. For tosa, I really like kyohei shindo. He does thick spine at handle, extreme spine taper, and equally extreme laser grinds. Highly recommend for the price.

 

[zizirex]

Hinoura for Sanjo, Tetsujin for Tosa.

 

[henkle]

+1 Value for price - hard to beat Wakui.

 

[choppuchoppu]

I spent about 6 hours thinning my brand new 240 just to make it usable and I'm still not particularly impressed. At this point I'm kinda committed to it as a project knife since I botched resale value but I wish I had put that $300 elsewhere to be honest.

I thought Mazakis were pretty thin? I'd be interested in seeing your mazaki modifications

 

[SwampDonkey]

I thought Mazakis were pretty thin? I'd be interested in seeing your mazaki modifications

That's what I thought too, especially after another member stated his recent models were quite thin BTE. Mine is from the most recent Knives&Stones drop and it was quite wedgey upon arrival, plus it got dead stuck in carrots. The tip was much thicker than I anticipated so I mostly focused on thinning the front half and adding convex so choil doesn't show much change, but Here's a link to some pics and comments I put up initially. I don't have a micrometer so no hard measurements unfortunately, just going by feel. Makes a decent squash buster though, quite heavy and sturdy. I'd still take my Munetoshi every day of the week.

 

[choppuchoppu]

That's what I thought too, especially after another member stated his recent models were quite thin BTE. Mine is from the most recent Knives&Stones drop and it was quite wedgey upon arrival, plus it got dead stuck in carrots. The tip was much thicker than I anticipated so I mostly focused on thinning the front half and adding convex so choil doesn't show much change, but Here's a link to some pics and comments I put up initially. I don't have a micrometer so no hard measurements unfortunately, just going by feel. Makes a decent squash buster though, quite heavy and sturdy. I'd still take my Munetoshi every day of the week.

Wow that's surprising. I'm glad to know this now. Sorry it didn't meet your expectations that's the worst. Looks like you did a pretty nice job on it.

 

[SwampDonkey]

Plenty of sanjo smiths already mentioned, no need to repeat. For tosa, I really like kyohei shindo. He does thick spine at handle, extreme spine taper, and equally extreme laser grinds. Highly recommend for the price.

+1 for Kyohei Shindo. Delightful cutters with absolute laser tips on the bunka and gyuto.

 

[KnightKnightForever]

Which of these has the most belly? I don't have many Japanese knives. I know next to nothing about the makers