Time for new stones - recommendations?

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  1. Jan 3, 2019 #31

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    If I were you, I'd cancel that 1k Cho and replace it with an 800 -- nicer combo with 800/3k, in my opinion.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2019 #32

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    SHAPTON Is the best!!
    SHAPTON glass #500
    Ceramic KUROMAKU # 2k and 8k
     
  3. Jan 3, 2019 #33

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    Don’t go for cheap flattening stone. Try to get atoma #140.
    Why!?
    Because I was there before. Wasted money on 2 cheap flattening stones!!
     
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  4. Jan 3, 2019 #34

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    Don't waste money on flattening stones or whatever, and get an Atoma!
     
  5. Jan 3, 2019 #35

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    Anything more in the $50 or less range?
     
  6. Jan 3, 2019 #36

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    Atoma 400 is mid $60s on amazon w/ free shipping
     
  7. Jan 3, 2019 #37

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    What's the difference between Atomas of the same grit but different coarseness?
     
  8. Jan 3, 2019 #38

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    Global stone with the angler is pretty good
     
  9. Jan 3, 2019 #39

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    Also should Chosera be soaked before use?
     
  10. Jan 3, 2019 #40

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    No, splash, wipe, splash and wait 90 seconds is fine
     
  11. Jan 4, 2019 #41

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    No, soaking increases the risk of the stone cracking for magnesia based stones.

    My choseras have never had any cracking issues. I have sealed all of mine. Not sure if this has protected them or not. Mine are also used exclusively as splash and go.

    I do tend to leave a little of the mud on the stone when I flatten it before use.
     
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    If you soak Chosera stones they will eventually fall apart. First had experience of a friend of mine.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2019 #43

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    What did you use to seal them?
     
  14. Jan 4, 2019 #44

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    Marine grade varnish. The one I can get here in Oz is probably not available elsevhere but I assume that most marine grade varnish would work. I used a spray can but you could use a paintbrush I guess.

    Put painters tape on top surface. Spray the sides (and base if there is no plastic or wooden base to the stone). 2 coats does the job.
     
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    It's good to hear that the varnish doesn't degrade the stone. Considering the combined warnings which come with both Shapton and Naniwa magnesia-based stones, I've been putting off testing it to see if it mightn't damage them -- I think the warning expressly cautions against detergents, oils, hot water -- I fully expect that applying oil-based varnishes and solvents would be strongly discouraged.
     
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    Maybe you are correcet, IDK. All I can say is that I sealed mine this way and they have had nil issues with cracking. Not sure if the 2 facts are related or not. I don't believe that I am the only one to seal stones in this way.
     
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    So what if Marine grade varnish doesn't work. What do you have to lose? The Choseras will probably crack anyways. Mine all did and they were never soaked,strictly splash and go.
     
  18. Jan 4, 2019 #48

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    choseras are glued to a plastic base, so adhesives alone aren't a problem
    assuming they are properly formulated.

    the main issue is that magnesia binders don't like "solvents"
    that includes prolonged exposure to water...
     
  19. Jan 6, 2019 #49

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    I just used Shapton pro 1K today and I was pleasantly surprised what a nice S&G stone it is. Especially if you consider its price!!!
     
  20. Jan 6, 2019 #50

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    Hell, even the atoma 140 is $68ish on Amazon. A lot cheaper than what I paid.
     
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    Holy crap,me too.
     
  22. Jan 6, 2019 #52

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  24. Jan 7, 2019 #54

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    Guys what's the best flattening stone on Amazon for around/under $60?
     
  25. Jan 7, 2019 #55

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    I think it has been mentioned enough ..... But for if for some reason you missed it .... GET AN ATOMA ~~~~ 140/400 both works fine as flattening stone
     
  26. Jan 7, 2019 #56

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    I was looking at that one but only found the one I linked previously. Is there one that comes with a base?
     

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