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I would back track a bit and start a thread about what you need and what your budget is. I never recommend buying a knife to make it work for you; seldom turns out well.
 

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That syodai for $30 might be a good grab? This place in Australia sells them for $280aud.
Looks to have decent fit and finish for $30. It's a re-branded OEM, so forget about the brand name.
 

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Based on what's in the pic the Syodai looks like a cool find. It's more like a suji/gyuto hybrid but that's my fav shape. But that's me speaking as a hobbyist and someone who has more confidence now in thinning/reprofiling. If I just need something to work with and I'm on a budget I would stick with new Victorinox or Kiwi as others have suggested.
 

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That syodai for $30 might be a good grab? This place in Australia sells them for $280aud.
Looks to have decent fit and finish for $30. It's a re-branded OEM, so forget about the brand name.
this knife says syodai right? but on the other side of it, it says misono
 

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Based on what's in the pic the Syodai looks like a cool find. It's more like a suji/gyuto hybrid but that's my fav shape. But that's me speaking as a hobbyist and someone who has more confidence now in thinning/reprofiling. If I just need something to work with and I'm on a budget I would stick with new Victorinox or Kiwi as others have suggested.
it also says misono on the other side of the syodai knife
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Are you sure it's no left-handed one, with an inverted geometry? (right side flat, left one convexed, edge off-centered to the right, instead of the 'normal' one — right side convexed, left one flat, edge off-centered to the left).
I'm asking because of the Misono logo on the left face.
 

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Does anyone else think that steel looks wrong? And a what's the deal with the edge - is that a massively rolled edge? Everything about it screams fake to me.

If you simply must choose between these two I guess I'd pick the random kanji one, but why? These are not the only two knives on the planet, and just because they're Japanese doesn't mean they're high quality. I'd reevaluate your assumptions
 

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this knife says syodai right? but on the other side of it, it says misono
If it's Misono, it could be a good grab for $30. Misono are well-known knives and good users. You'll probably have to thin it to get better performance, but there are plenty of thread here that discuss how to do that.

Does anyone else think that steel looks wrong? And a what's the deal with the edge - is that a massively rolled edge? Everything about it screams fake to me.
To me it just looks like pitting on the steel from age/wear. No doubt the knife has seen some use... New Misono have laser-etched logos. This one has the stamped "Misono" logo, which would be consistent with it being an older, worn one. It's weird that it's also etched "syodai" on the other side, but I'm seeing old not fake. Who knows, though, maybe there's a market for counterfeit Misono in this part of the world.
 

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You're probably right and I'm being paranoid.. but still, that edge 😳 I don't think it's a trick of the light, if you follow the reflection of the bevel from the heel upwards. Even if it's legit, it's still an unspecified stainless from at least the 80s if not earlier - how good could it be?
 
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