Vintage Foster Bros - NOS - Cleaver Group Buy

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  1. Dec 6, 2018 at 3:34 PM #31

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    Am I too late to get one? Put me down for one if I’m not
     
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  2. Dec 6, 2018 at 4:10 PM #32

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    I was wondering if something happened to you, as this one is right up your alley.
     
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  3. Dec 6, 2018 at 5:35 PM #33

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    Dave should know I don’t check the forums everyday. I’m gonna kill him if he didn’t save me one
     
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  4. Dec 6, 2018 at 6:22 PM #34

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    Hey Ryan, I did in fact think of you, and counted you in BUT I figured you'd say no since you have even more cleavers than I do! :D
     
  5. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:26 PM #35

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    I'll take one!
    Dave would you please contact me at rreidiii@me.com
    Thanks
     
  6. Dec 6, 2018 at 8:45 PM #36

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    Right now the list is full but not everyone has paid. I'll get back to you if someone falls out.

    Thanks!
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  7. Dec 6, 2018 at 8:52 PM #37

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    I'm supposed to be paying for the cleavers today. I'm waiting to hear back with shipping info.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2018 at 11:13 PM #38

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    I think that these cleavers would have been made pre-1956 (maybe 1953-1956) and yes they should be carbon.

    Foster Bros sold their name in 1957 to Columbia Cutlery who used different packaging and made stainless knives altogether different. I found no record of them making cleavers at all.

    Of course all that might not be true but I'm pretty certain it's a fact. ;)
     
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  9. Dec 6, 2018 at 11:17 PM #39

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    Oh, and if they are carbon then they're either made from 1055 (the most likely candidate) or 1095, the two carbon steels used by Foster Bros.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2018 at 5:15 PM #40

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    The cleavers will be packed up for shipment to me on Monday. I should have them mid-late next week.

    Most everyone who requested a cleaver has paid - thank you!

    If you still need to pay please do as I have a list of people wanting to get one and hear back from me if there's any available.
     
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  11. Dec 10, 2018 at 6:56 PM #41

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    The cleavers have been purchased. I'll let you all know when I have them in hand.

    Thanks again folks! :)
     
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  12. Dec 11, 2018 at 10:04 PM #42

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    Look at what the brown truck just dropped off.....

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    These are the real deal folks! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

    These cleavers are so NOS that the notches on the handles are rough...I've never seen this before!

    I haven't taken them out of the box yet, too excited, had to post a picture. :D
     
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  13. Dec 11, 2018 at 10:23 PM #43

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    Now that I've handled them I see that I should have charged more. :D

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  15. Dec 11, 2018 at 10:26 PM #45

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    They've still got lacquer on the blade!
     
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    As you can now likely see these are labeled as #118. What you can't likely see is that the labels are marked with Chatillon Company which dates these pre-1953.

    Chatillon purchased interest in Foster Bros in 1904. The trademark "Foster Bros., John Chatillon & Sons" was used up until 1953. These cleavers were made somewhere in that time range.
     
  17. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:52 AM #47

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    These look AWESOME !!! I can't wait till I get it in my hands on it, thanks again for organizing this amazing group buy, we all struck gold!
     
  18. Dec 12, 2018 at 4:25 AM #48

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    I'm glad that you're as excited as I am. :)
     
  19. Dec 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM #49

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    I should have known, things were going too nicely for me, and that my luck (my bad luck) would come around. :(

    The problem - sharpening these things.

    I've sharpened more than my fair share of vintage cleavers over the years, lots of them being Foster Bros. so I wasn't concerned. Yes I noticed that these cleavers had wide bevels at the heal but knowing how they're thicker in this section I know that's normal. I generally even the bevel out though as it looks more appealing to the eye. This is where things go awry.

    These particular cleavers appear to be very uneven in the forging/grinding of the faces plus the right side is flatter than the left. This means that no matter what I do I'm left with uneven bevels along the length and not matching from side to side. And to make matters worse the heal section of the bevels are ground super high making me have to match that along the length.

    I've worked on two of the cleavers so far and can state that these are the worst two cleaver sharpening jobs I've ever done. I chased my tail on both to the extent that I don't want to send them to their owners.

    Yeah, this is a BIG problem because if I continue I'm likely to hose them all, or at least make them into something unsightly. This is a very tough thing for me to admit here, something that only 2 hours ago I wouldn't believe I'd be typing,

    I'm going to give this some more thought before making a decision. I'm pretty sure however this goes I lose...but what's new? Ugh doube banghead.gif

    Dave
     
  20. Dec 12, 2018 at 4:57 PM #50

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    I think what would help here is some sort of jig to use to help hog off steel precisely. I don't have anything like this, or even a grinder that's adaptable to this type of thing.
     
  21. Dec 12, 2018 at 6:15 PM #51

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    If it helps feel free to experiment on mine. If your having issues sharpening it, where does that leave me?

    Jay
     
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  22. Dec 12, 2018 at 7:35 PM #52

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    This is turning into regrinding the blade more than it is sharpening, but I haven't given up, I just need to figure it out is all.
     

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