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Hello,

I wanted to see it there is a preference among people on whether an End Grain Walnut vs Hinoki cutting board is better for japanese knives ?

Thanks
Vadim
 
Walnut end grain is heavier, much more durable and looks nicer. It is most likely thicker too. Hinoki is much softer, lighter and gentler on the edges. Hinoki also has a very strong smell, especially when new. Depends on what you want.
 
I use large and smaller Hinoki boards for vegetables, and a Hi-Soft synthetic rubber board for raw protein. Here's my take on the Hinoki boards from the last year and a half or so that I've used them:

PROS
  • Gentle on the blade edge compared to harder woods.
  • Exceptionally lightweight, very easy to carry to the sink for washing.
  • Easy to resurface with a few licks from an orbital sander, if it gets too many scratches.
  • Relatively inexpensive, easy to replace if they warp or get too beat up over time.
  • They dry fast, which is useful when washing between product types on the board.
CONS:
  • There is a risk of warping, but it hasn't been consistent in my experience (one warped just a little, the other is still dead flat).
  • They aren't very stain-resistant, so cosmetically they don't "dress up" a kitchen the way a hardwood board does. It's not a big deal for me because I store them under the counter, but it might be for some folks who consider cutting boards decorative as well as functional.
  • You have to be careful to cut no closer than a 45 degree angle to the direction of side grain. The wood is so soft, a sharp knife will tend to stick when parallel to the grain.
  • The wood is too soft for slicing bread if you have a really sharp serrated knife like the Gude bread knife I use. It will quickly scar up the board in a way that vertical chopping garlic or slicing veg doesn't. I have to pull out an old side-grain maple board for bread slicing with that knife.
So there are a few downsides, but I like the boards so much I'll continue to use them. I've never liked how heavy hardwood boards are, since I carry boards to the sink to wash, rather than washing in-place and leaving the board out. The Hinoki boards are a delight to carry and clean, compared to thick, end-grain hardwood boards.
 
I have both and would agree that Walnut is much heavier and harder feeling and that Hinoki is light and feels soft, in a good way.
I'd use walnut on feet if I wanted to leave it out; or a smaller hiroaki board if if I want to wash in the sink and put away.
The better, thin Hinoki boards have a slat of wood inserted across the grain to help prevent warping:
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Konosuke make a nice hinoki board with the anti warp slat and a flip out pice of hardwood to support the board during drying:
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Hello,

I wanted to see it there is a preference among people on whether an End Grain Walnut vs Hinoki cutting board is better for japanese knives ?

Thanks
Vadim

Curious on why you've limited the choices to just those to woods? Personally I'm a huge fan of end grain maple.

However, on my wish list is the Hasegawa Wood Core Soft Rubber Cutting Board, easier on blades than wood.
 
I used to experience some warping on one of my thinner Hinoki boards.
The key to avoid this is wetting/moistening both sides prior to use, not just the side you're going to cut on.
I love my Hinoki boards for all the reasons Paraffin mentioned.
If I could just find an Aomori Hiba board(the bee's knees IMO like Khashy said) that was around 30 cm deep I would be ecstatic.
 
I used to experience some warping on one of my thinner Hinoki boards.
The key to avoid this is wetting/moistening both sides prior to use, not just the side you're going to cut on.
I love my Hinoki boards for all the reasons Paraffin mentioned.
If I could just find an Aomori Hiba board(the bee's knees IMO like Khashy said) that was around 30 cm deep I would be ecstatic.

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They’re not cheap but they exist!
 
That Aomori Hiba board is 305x610x30mm btw
 
Hello,

I wanted to see it there is a preference among people on whether an End Grain Walnut vs Hinoki cutting board is better for japanese knives ?

Thanks
Vadim

i think there was some test published here that determined plastic was actually the best or was i bamboo?? talking edge retention.
 
That Aomori Hiba board is 305x610x30mm btw
Oh please do tell where you got that one. I know what I want for Christmas this year..
I have the 480 x 235 mm Wasabi board. It's a bit too small for a 240-ish gyuto and doesn't really have enough room for many ingredients at the same time, but man I love that board.
 
Oh please do tell where you got that one. I know what I want for Christmas this year..
I have the 480 x 235 mm Wasabi board. It's a bit too small for a 240-ish gyuto and doesn't really have enough room for many ingredients at the same time, but man I love that board.

Here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuzACDsnY6J/?igshid=1833ldgr8uvjm

He was kind enough to make a special order for me direct to Japan. Contact them and I’m sure they’ll be able to help
 
Curious on why you've limited the choices to just those to woods? Personally I'm a huge fan of end grain maple. .
I already have a walnut but considering a ~16-17" x ~10-11' x 1-1.25" cutting board and tempted by another walnut or hinoki to try.
I don't like maple.

Thank you all. I will give a try with a hinoki
is there a brand you would recommend ?
i see this one https://www.amazon.com/Single-Piece-Hinoki-Cutting-Friendly/dp/B01HFW1N3S?th=1
or https://www.ebay.com/itm/Miyabi-Cutting-Chopping-Board-40-x-25-cm-Hinoki-Wood-Japan-import/283574885519?epid=1975740902
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKYMEM6/ref=psdc_289863_t3_B003Y8YUW4

if anyone has other recos . thank you !!
 
I already have a walnut but considering a ~16-17" x ~10-11' x 1-1.25" cutting board and tempted by another walnut or hinoki to try.
I don't like maple.

Thank you all. I will give a try with a hinoki
is there a brand you would recommend ?
i see this one https://www.amazon.com/Single-Piece-Hinoki-Cutting-Friendly/dp/B01HFW1N3S?th=1
or https://www.ebay.com/itm/Miyabi-Cutting-Chopping-Board-40-x-25-cm-Hinoki-Wood-Japan-import/283574885519?epid=1975740902
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKYMEM6/ref=psdc_289863_t3_B003Y8YUW4

if anyone has other recos . thank you !!

Have you checked out BoardSmith? Top notch cutting boards IMO.
 
I already have a walnut but considering a ~16-17" x ~10-11' x 1-1.25" cutting board and tempted by another walnut or hinoki to try.
I don't like maple.

Thank you all. I will give a try with a hinoki
is there a brand you would recommend ?
i see this one https://www.amazon.com/Single-Piece-Hinoki-Cutting-Friendly/dp/B01HFW1N3S?th=1
or https://www.ebay.com/itm/Miyabi-Cutting-Chopping-Board-40-x-25-cm-Hinoki-Wood-Japan-import/283574885519?epid=1975740902
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKYMEM6/ref=psdc_289863_t3_B003Y8YUW4

if anyone has other recos . thank you !!
Those all look fine IMO. Personally, I wouldn't pay the premium for the Miyabi board compared to the others. I may be wrong, but I can't see it being that much better than the alternatives. After all we're more or less talking about a piece of Hinoki plank.

If you have the space for it I would recommend sizing up a little to something like 18-20" x 12". The extra room for both your knife and ingredients just make things a little easier and more comfortable, just a little less constrained, especially using a larger knife. It's still going to be lightweight and very handy.
 
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