Michi
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I’m pretty sure you would be happy with the Kaeru. It’s a good knife.
Just get the Kaeru. You can always buy something else and sell the Kaeru if you're not a fan.Normal use. So not a knife that rusts easily or is brittle.
So to summarize, here are your proposals:
You seem to recommend to me the Kaeru Kasumi Stainless. Moreover it's one of the only ones in the list to be available at the moment.
- JCK Natures Deep Impact Series: semi-stainless / steel: Aogami Super (Blue Super) / HRC: 64-65 / weight: 182 g / 180 USD (sold out)
- Tanaka Ginsan Nashiji : semi-stainless / steel: Ginsan core with stainless clad / HRC: 60-61 / weight: 174 g / 199 USD (sold out)
- Kagekiyo Ginsan : semi-stainless / steel: Ginsan (Silver 3) stainless steel and cladded in stainless steel / HRC : ? / weight: 138 g / 350 USD (sold out)
- Kagekiyo Ginsan : stainless / steel: ? / HRC : ? / weight: 134 g / 355 USD (sold out)
- Kaeru Kasumi Stainless: stainless / steel: Hitachi SLD clad with softer stainless / HRC: ? / weight: 155 g / 200 USD
- Kaeru Kasumi Workhorse : non-stainless / steel: White 2 steel with Iron Cladding / HRC: ? / weight: 206 g / 370 USD (sold out)
- Munetoshi Kurouchi : non-stainless / steel: White Steel / HRC: ? / weight: 185 g / 250 USD
- Gesshin Heiji : semi-stainless / steel: ? / HRC: ? / weight: 194 g / 350 USD (sold out)
So I'm thinking of choosing it.
Anyone think I can make a better choice? For a knife on the list or not.
If you get a knife from JNS, why not buy a stone there?OK and which stone to choose?
There could be this stone at JNS if 8000 is not too thin : JNS combo 1000/8000 Matukusuyama
I wouldn't call Tanaka ginsan semiSS. It's full on SS. So no patina tendencies. It weighs pretty close to 200g. Give or take a couple g,
And some one mentioned thin behind the edge and oh yes, it is and that's where the magic happens. Mine gets a thorough workout in a pro kitchen all the time with no issues. I don't baby it, but don't abuse it either.
The Kaeru is semiSS and is lighter of the two. It is less blade heavy too. It has a very nice convex grind and contrary to what JNS site states it's not wide bevel.
The Tanaka ginsan nashiji is noticeably heavier (but still a middle weight) and is also more blade heavy. It has a wide bevel with a slight hollow grind and like already mentioned is exceptionally thin behind the edge.
Cutting performance is great on both.
So the sleeker looking and lighter Kaeru or the more rugged looking and heavier Tanaka?
Personally I love both. And you really can't go wrong with either. Hope that helps?
Carbon (C) | Chromium (Cr) | Molybdenum (Mo) | Vanadium (V) |
1.6% | 13% | 1.2% | 0.5% |
Carbon (C) | Chromium (Cr) | Molybdenum (Mo) | Vanadium (V) |
1.03% | 13.75% | - | - |
Good summary by Jova. I was just trying to give a warning earlier, since I had the impression op didn't want something too delicate. With a little care the Tanaka is awesome. Imo.
This is the best bang for buck combo stone imo and all you really need
https://www.japan-messer-shop.de/Kochmesser-fuer-Einsteiger/Kombischleifstein--1000-4000.html
(I believe imanishi made ceramic)
This helps, thank you!
Indeed, both steels must be resistant to oxidation:
Hitachi SLD :
Carbon (C) Chromium (Cr) Molybdenum (Mo) Vanadium (V) 1.6% 13% 1.2% 0.5%
Gin3 :
Carbon (C) Chromium (Cr) Molybdenum (Mo) Vanadium (V) 1.03% 13.75% - -
Seeing the price I guess the quality is not so good. But I guess I won't see the difference and the combo stone is more practical.
Keep us in the loop. We'd love to see what you ended up with.Thank you all. I think I have everything I need to make my choice.
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