Which of these knives?

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  1. Oct 3, 2019 #1

    Julian

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    Hi guys! Long story short, I'm in the market for a smaller gyuto or a petty, in the 150-180mm range, to complement a bigger chef knife. This knife will probably see almost daily use and I am more inclined towards a gyuto as more versatile but open to suggestions. Knuckle clearance is important and I would like for it to be thin and light. Maintenance etc is not that important.

    I live in Switzerland and the offer is limited, Cleancut and others don't ship here plus hidden import charges make things difficult. My best bet is probably this local importer that I came across, they seem to carry more obscure brands but I could be wrong. Which of these if any seem legit and a good deal to you? My budget is 200 max, for some of the knifes they have the option of 10% off with the importer's logo which I don't mind. Lastly, if you come across better options on the site that I did not list, give me a shout.

    Tokaji Aogami 2 Black Gyuto 185mm Magnolia
    Tanaka Shigeki Aogami 2 Black Gyuto 185mm
    Zakuri AS Wa-Santoku 170mm RO
    Ashi Hamono Wa-Gyuto 180mm Shirogami
    Konosuke GS Wa-Santoku 180mm
    Moritaka Aogami Supreme Petit 150mm octagonal
    Hiroshi Kato Wa-Gyuto 180mm AS Kurouchi
    Katsushige Anryu Wa-Gyuto 180mm Hammered CO
    Kohsey Aogami Super Santoku 180mm
    Masakage Yuki Wa-Gyuto 180mm

    Tanaka Shigeki VG-10 Nashiji Wa-Gyuto 185mm Keyaki

    There are a couple of santokus in the list that are in the same ballpark.









     
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    Tanaka Aogami & Ashi Shirogami are legit.
    Ashi should have better fit and finish.
    Note the Ashi runs a bit short @ 175mm x 40MM

    Zakuri knives are nice but more rustic and thick, but good steel. I have a 210 petty that I really enjoy.

    Konosuke is good choice for semi stainless so easy maintenance.

    I'd be happy with any of the above...
     
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    I would get the Ashi.
     
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    Tanaka Blue 2
     
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    Assshhhhiiiii
     
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    Ashi. Impeccable grind, finish and heat treat. Thin and wonderfully light.
     
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    Of course everyone is recommending the two knives that are not in stock :) I will ask how long it would take. In the meantime, any other recommendations?

    The Ashi is Shirogami 2 monosteel, any special considerations with that? It does look very thin and light with 1.8 mm at the heel and 1 at the tip, I guess that is what you would call a laser. If the knuckle guard is only 40 mm I would be a bit concerned, it's the minimum I can live with.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2019 #8
    In would seriously consider the Munetoshi 165 petty - which in fact is a small gyuto (40mm tall). Great little knife.
     
  9. Oct 4, 2019 #9
    If you consider Zakuri, than have a look at the 165 funayuki (super blue or blue#2)
     
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    Ashi is carried by a lot of places. Gesshin Ginga from JKI, Carbon Knife, several others
     
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    A-S-H-I

    What else?

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    Thanks Matus, that one is not available here.
     
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    Thanks, none of those stores are an option here.
     
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    Forgive me missing that.
    Could you have a buddy elsewhere in the EU order and then ship to you? Lots of people do that type of thing.
     
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    If you buy something from EU, there are taxes?
     
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    https://www.japanische-kochmesser.ch/

    The only shop in Europe that sells Ashis. And absolutly trustworthy, my deal with Mr. Röllin was a joy.

    It's a pity this shop isn't in a country of the EU, I would buy lots of knives there.


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    If you live in Switzerland, which isn't part of the EU, there are taxes, yes.

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    Bummer. I would have expected some sort of agreement, like others.
     
  19. Oct 4, 2019 #19
    No Switzerland wanted to keep its ‘special’ status. I am not sure how well is that working out for them.
     
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