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SOLD Yanick 310mm Aogami Super Sujihiki

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HalfBloodHobbit

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This one hurts to pass along but a new archery build needs funding. Yanick rarely does Aogami Super blades so this one Is special. Also comes with a JKI padded case

Length: 309mm
Height: 40mm
Weight: 221 grams

$1075 CONUS
 

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@cantdecidewhichone I wouldn't stress about it too much. The seller would only accept cash or Zelle, so you would have had to roll the dice. I hope the buyer ends up receiving the knife they paid for, and that this doesn't turn into another scam thread. If the seller is the real HalfBloodHobbit, they should know better.
 
@pete84 I appreciate that but we can't have people just wiring money to every guy who posts a couple pictures and an email. Other longstanding members have had their accounts compromised in the past. There's a reason the mods have established rules for BST, and they are reasonable and necessary in my opinion to keep BST a valuable resource to the forum.
 
Again, OP is solid. I bet many established members here will agree.

@Campbell I've always thought sending money online is voluntary... you should continue "not just wiring money to every guy who posts a couple pictures and an email" as it suits your comfort level. But really now, presupposing this could be a scam without any evidence is ignorant and conspiracy theorizing of how the OP's account may have been hacked is asinine. I'm willing to bet that accounts getting hacked on KKF is rare but I don't know the stats.

Anybody looking to send hundreds or thousands of dollars over the internet best be exercising thorough due diligence. Having bought and sold innumerable high ticket hobby items over the past decade using all different manner of payment, luckily I've never been ripped off by a buyer or seller due to precisely this. The only f-up that happened to me since joining KKF in 2012 was USPS mis-delivering a $150 Tanaka Gyuto to a scummy thief-neighbor at my old office building, about 6 years ago.

Bottom line, caveat emptor.
 
OP is solid, I would not worry.

If anything, blame the leftist lawmakers out to tax us all to destitution or death, whichever comes first.

Thanks man I appreciate it, I would otherwise be happy to use PayPal but mine was nuked along with Venmo with no explanation, I suspect it's because I was using a personal account for some business transactions. Once that happens your contact info and bank details are blacklisted and you can't create another account to receive funds, and if you try to do it anyways PayPal will hold your money for 180 days and not allow deposits. Just ask Mert Tansu i think they held something north of 3 grand when his got terminated. If someone doesn't feel comfortable with a service with no buyers protection Stripe is what I'd offer despite the fees, but if I have rapport with folks on Here and we mutually agree to a no fee service it's unreasonable for anyone to be salty just because they didn't get first dibs.
 
@HalfBloodHobbit @pete84 I don't disagree with caveat emptor or the OP needing an alternative to Paypal. I don't know the OP, and I am sure he is a great person, and I am sorry he had to sell the knife to fund his new bow (but then again if there is no meat, then there is nothing to cut???;)).

The OP was kind enough to give me the opportunity to buy it but only if I would pay using Cash App or Zelle. I wasn't comfortable with his request, and I asked him if he had an alternative way of accepting payment that would provide some protection - but at that point he had enough interest from other people that he didn't need to continue our conversation.

Zelle and other P2P payment platforms have been particularly problematic for online fraud. The NYT reports that "Fraud is Flourishing on Zelle" and Bloomberg recently reported, "US Senators Seek Crackdown on Zelle Amid Complaints of Fraud".

The pattern generally looks like this:
  1. Longstanding member posts a desirable knife on BST
  2. KKF member DM's to buy
  3. Seller says he can only accept payment without recourse like Cashapp/Venmo/Zelle/Paypal Friend & Family etc.
  4. Trusting KKF buyer sends the money but never receives the knife because OP's account has been hacked or OP is under financial difficulty etc.
This is why the thread at the top of BST is permanently pinned there.

In that thread @Matus writes:

"Everyone who offers anything for sale in the BST section is obliged to quote a price that includes whatever fees they expect to be paying. That means - if a potential buyer expresses interest via a private communication with the seller and then the seller asks for F&F - please let us know. That is unacceptable and will have consequences for the seller.​

Of course we as a mod team can not 'stop' anyone for paying Friends & Family, but every buyer that is about to type 'PM sent' in that WTS thread should know that they are entitled to pay with Goods & Services and not be coerced to cover extra fees or pay with F&F."​

In this case I clearly wasn't "entitled to pay with Goods & Services" and the OP had no reservations about requesting payment with no protection. This discussion is particularly pertinent because the OP has quite a few other (very nice) knives posted for sale on BST. His comments suggest that he will continue to request payment without protection for the buyer so I think it is appropriate to clarify this for the community.

Thanks for hearing me out.
 
@HalfBloodHobbit @pete84 I don't disagree with caveat emptor or the OP needing an alternative to Paypal. I don't know the OP, and I am sure he is a great person, and I am sorry he had to sell the knife to fund his new bow (but then again if there is no meat, then there is nothing to cut???;)).

The OP was kind enough to give me the opportunity to buy it but only if I would pay using Cash App or Zelle. I wasn't comfortable with his request, and I asked him if he had an alternative way of accepting payment that would provide some protection - but at that point he had enough interest from other people that he didn't need to continue our conversation.

Zelle and other P2P payment platforms have been particularly problematic for online fraud. The NYT reports that "Fraud is Flourishing on Zelle" and Bloomberg recently reported, "US Senators Seek Crackdown on Zelle Amid Complaints of Fraud".

The pattern generally looks like this:
  1. Longstanding member posts a desirable knife on BST
  2. KKF member DM's to buy
  3. Seller says he can only accept payment without recourse like Cashapp/Venmo/Zelle/Paypal Friend & Family etc.
  4. Trusting KKF buyer sends the money but never receives the knife because OP's account has been hacked or OP is under financial difficulty etc.
This is why the thread at the top of BST is permanently pinned there.

In that thread @Matus writes:

"Everyone who offers anything for sale in the BST section is obliged to quote a price that includes whatever fees they expect to be paying. That means - if a potential buyer expresses interest via a private communication with the seller and then the seller asks for F&F - please let us know. That is unacceptable and will have consequences for the seller.​

Of course we as a mod team can not 'stop' anyone for paying Friends & Family, but every buyer that is about to type 'PM sent' in that WTS thread should know that they are entitled to pay with Goods & Services and not be coerced to cover extra fees or pay with F&F."​

In this case I clearly wasn't "entitled to pay with Goods & Services" and the OP had no reservations about requesting payment with no protection. This discussion is particularly pertinent because the OP has quite a few other (very nice) knives posted for sale on BST. His comments suggest that he will continue to request payment without protection for the buyer so I think it is appropriate to clarify this for the community.

Thanks for hearing me out.

Cheers for posting!

All the knives I've bought from BST have been via PP G&S, and I've recommended to friends that they should ALWAYS do so unless they really know and trust the seller. When buying a knife on BST I view it as a business transaction, pure and simple, and value whatever protection I can get.

Sure, I've been a KKF member for a decade, and have enjoyed good banter with numerous people here—but TBH, don't know 99% of the sellers very well, I've only met 2 members in person. Yeah, there's often comments like "buy with confidence," "stand up seller,"—but take it all with a grain of salt since I don't know many of the people giving these testimonials. It just comes down to being a smart consumer—wanting some recourse incase the transaction did go south.

I'll typically use PP F&F to people I actually know, or knife makers I trust—whereas sales on KKF BST inherently have more risks involved than buying from a proper business.

If a seller doesn't want to use PP G&S, that's fine—but it would perhaps be better to state that sale would be made via Cash App or Zelle, etc.
 
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