choices. pimp hiromoto as 240, carter 240 muteki, fujiwara mabroshi no meito 240mm.

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Knife purchases stalled the past while, as I'm pretty happy with most of what I have really, I'd like a chef au ritz 10" chef but other than that pretty happy.

So I already have one of the old school stamped hiromoto AS 240 gyutos.

Choice is...

  1. Keep the hiromoto, pimp it, sharpening job and a new handle. (stainless clad, blue steel and no longer available from JCK)
  3. or 240 Carter ironwood muteki ($400ish before taxes etc) - I dunno whats putting me off this? That its not actually murray making them?
  5. or 240 fujiwara terayasu mabroishi no meito ($350ish before taxes), fit and finish on the nashiji is horrible, the steel is crazy.


Anyone used one of the carter muteki's gyutos? are they a little beefier than the old sfgz waboucho's? How do they rate?

Really drifting towards the carter, but the fujiwara with a lil heft could be nice too, plus bolster (probably have to price in a rehandle though

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I can't speak to the Carter, but I did once own a 190mm Teryasu Fujiwara Mabroshi no Meito. It's the one knife I wish I never would've let go. F & F is a bazillion times better than the cheapo one.
 
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This IP pro was basically my dream knife when I got into this madness 10 odd years ago. Reality wise I doubt I'll be able to pay for one from Murray and his style has changed a bit since then (I actually prefer the simplicity of the older stuff).

I have a 150 nashiji petty though and it is a serious piece of steel. The handle is horrible, but at the price point. Yup.

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/5807-225mm-Carter-International-Pro-Gyuto
 
My avatar will attest of my love for the Maboroshi series. Great cutters and lovely to handle: thin but with the prefect weight...very special knives.
 
If I were you I would definitely go with the Carter Muteki. The Fujiwara Mabaroshi is better f&f than the nashiji line but doesn't compare to the f&f of the Carter Muteki knives. You also get to see that exact measurements and thickness of the Carter before you purchase. Something you can't do with the fujiwaras.
 
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Out of curiosity, where are you finding a 240 fujiwara terayasu mabroishi no meito for $350? I don't see them anywhere for less than $675!
 
knyfeknerd said:
Out of curiosity, where are you finding a 240 fujiwara terayasu mabroishi no meito for $350? I don't see them anywhere for less than $675!
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Knifewear its 386 cad. I think your thinking of the denka line their rolls royce which is considerably more
 
My computer says $518 cad for the 240. Still better that $675! JKI has it for $550......saw it on a UK site for $440 plus shipping plus whatever customs fee I might have to pay.......
 
Sorry was looking at thé 195 lol. Still way cheaper than thé 800+ cad it would be
 
For what it's worth, I'd go for the Carter or a Hiromoto pimped by Dave... The Hiro would be one of a kind, you choose everything. Pretty cool if you ask me...
 
http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com...a-maboroshi-no-meito-240mm-western-gytuo.html

Handle Length- 124.0mm
Handle Width- 16.7mm
Handle to Tip Length- 245.0mm
Heel to Tip Length- 243.0mm
Blade Height at Heel- 53.5mm
Width of Spine at Handle- 2.6mm
Width of Spine Above heel- 3.1mm
Width of Spine at Middle- 2.35mm
Width of Spine about 1cm from the tip- 1.7mm
Blade Thickness at 1/2 way between the Spine and Edge- 1.9mm
Weight- 267g

carter

STYLE: Muteki Series Kitchen Knife #208 with Stainless Fukugo-zai Finish
STEEL: White steel laminated with stainless steel
HANDLE: Arizona Desert Ironwood
BLADE LENGTH: 8.05 sun, 244mm (9.6")
WEIGHT: 170 grams
BLADE WIDTH: 52mm
BLADE THICKNESS: *1.5mm

I know from my petty that Fujiwara terayasu is much thicker at spine and then tapers down to an acute point at about half way. Much beefier than the carter's I have, The Fujiwara is 262grams and the carter 170 grams with an ironwood handle, that sounds laser territory. I have a 210 sfgz waboucho that is crazy thin, its lovely but chips easily (especially if left near inexperienced hands) and I really use for veg prep now. The Hiromoto AS is 232grams but still feels light. I'm just wondering will the carter feel too far too light at 170?
 
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