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I nearly wept when I had one knife disappear. My whole kit...I cannot even imagine the loss. Hope something good comes out of this for you.

I foresee a lot of good friendships with members of the forums here being a good outcome from this. I have been a member here for about a year, but I rarely post (I just started posting more recently). This has encouraged me to become more social and active within the community here, which I think is a very good outcome.
 
I talked to the police after work and they did a report, they said there isn't much they could do without actually seeing them take it or a surveillance video or something, but at least it is on file. I told all the other cooks there to watch their knives close, as well as spreading word around to other restaurants that I know cooks/chefs in. The current restaurant might now do anything about it, but word spreads fast in kitchens.
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It just dawned upon me... the guy has stolen the tools of your trade of which you earn a living... Now that is serious! Its very personal!

That's no investigation! if every crime to be investigated needs a video or the proof is right in front of their eyes... that's no police / detective work. Insist that they come down and investigate and move from there. They shld do real police work. I do not think that is the correct work procedure and attitude of the police. Talk to higher up. certainly can't be the official policy. IF indeed so, shld get it out to the press/ media


Bug them (police). It will also deter them ( work place) from stealing form you again as they know the police will be involved. IF you dont... they may perceive that you are easy meat and do again and again!

Yr employer too has a weak link. IF things are stolen from the restaurant, they won't pursue because they don't want to offend the chefs? Now we know....

Cooks too have their rights you know... We all need to do what is right and have no fear especially you are in the right.


Just a wild thought.. you shld befriend and date a policewoman so that she will be motivated to help you. pay the price man!:D

Press on and its a good exercise to demand your civil rights.

rgds
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I know if it was a tool box with a snap on sticker on it they would be looking everywere. That reminds me never touch a mechanic's tools. I agree with zitangy you easily have a few grand there that is considered grand larceny.
 
I'm so sorry this happened to you. You must be feeling a lot of emotions (anger at your loss, and sadness that one of your friends/coworkers is most likely responsible). I would definitely make sure the police understand the full value of what was taken from you, as this is no petty theft. I'd be tempted to write a letter to your ex-boss and coworkers explaining what this loss and violation of trust means to you. Who knows, maybe the thief will have a change of heart and do the right thing.
 
I've got a couple vintage sabs that I could part with if you're in need of a chefs knife. I hope, no pray, that this never happens to me. I would cry. Thinking about it brings a year to my eye for you. Let me know if it would be of any help.
 
Consult a couple lawyers, somebody may be be willing to take this on. Your employer may actually be insured against the theft and just unwilling to eat the deductible, as of yet.
 
I have shapton glass 1, 4, and 8 k that are redundant to me, thx to maxim! Pm me I would be happy to donate them to you. Ill pay shipping too. Sorry you got screwed by your co- workers, life is hard enough just trying to do your best. Best Eric
 
wow that ******* sucks, holy **** that's so shady. i would threaten the owners to go to the media about what happened if they don't get who ever took it to return them. i'm sure an anonymous drop off with no questions asked policy would be best, and then get the hell out of there. i would not stay in a place where someone would steal tools of the trade and nothing gets done about it...

no such thing as 'just a cook' each member of the team is equally important, especially the dish washers/stewards.
 
That's full bore douchery at it's worst. I'm so sorry to hear it. What goes around... It will eventually come around and bite them all in their collective backsides.
What I find more disturbing is the owners/management seemingly dismissive attitude. Were I in charge, I'd figure out exactly who was responsible and they'd not only be fired, but escorted out in handcuffs. That really speaks to the quality of and the character of the people running the place. Unfortunately, you've found out exactly who and what they are, but at a very high pricetag. Definitely good to separate yourself from those kinds of people. I'd really press the police on this. From what you listed, it's definitely grand larceny. The pool of immediate suspects is very small. A good detective shouldn't have too much trouble with this case.
 
I'm going to call the police again tomorrow and probably stop by to see if there anything else they can do. They seemed to not be taking it very seriously, but I will try my best to get them to see otherwise.
 
Yeah push the police hard. And make sure you tell everyone you know about what happened and the terrible attitude your former employers had to the theft
 
if you don't mind my asking, what's the name of the restaurant? You can PM if you don't feel comfortable putting it up here. I know a few guys in DC, and I own operate my own kitchen here in Maryland. Wouldn't mind, in fact I WANT to, spread the word in our kitchen community about these guys. I'm half tempted to drive down there and walk right the **** in their back door and handle this myself. And I might just walk out with some of their **** too. I have absolute zero tolerance for this crap.
And I might know somebody within the Washingtonian who's ear I could drop a whisper in. Might take a little time, but buzz is buzz. Probably won't get your kit back, but I firmly believe in paying dues, and this place needs to pay the **** up.
Sorry about your loss. You're a better man than I. I would have started swinging the very moment I found my stuff missing. And as an owner, all staff on that night's shift would have their paycheck(s) suspended until your kit showed up. In my own personal hands. So I'd know who's career to ruin. **** law. This is the restaurant business.
 
So I'd know who's career to ruin. **** law. This is the restaurant business.

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The two who didn't steal your knives should also be shamed for not coming to your aid.
 
Calling the Police again is a waste of time. There's nothing they can do even if some one you suspect walks in tomorrow with what you are sure is one of your knives...unless of course they have serial numbers, engravings or you have photographic proof. Pursuing that will just end up in frustration. If you want to try to to get someplace you need to get after your employer to cover your loss. If you work for a corporation or chain get your googlefu on and start calling up the ladder in the corporation.
I no longer have any spare knives but I still have my working kit if you need some small items. I think I still have have canape and other cutter sets that are NIB, a Garde Manger set and hemostats that I can part with.
This all falls squarley in the live and learn category but try to lighten your kit in the future. I didn't even keep personal five stones or three cleavers in my office aside from the Dexter cleavers I used to give to my cooks. Carrying a kit that large just makes you a target and as much as I hate to say it kitchens are full of those who will rob you blind when you turn your back.
Chalk it up to experience and just move on. Sucks even posting that but as you can see a few of us have been down the same road.
 
Unfortunately DC police have their hands full with all the violent crimes going on. Some guys knives getting stolen is NBD in their eyes. They may also be thinking the value of your kit is highly inflated if they have a lack of knife knowledge.

Maybe in the end this will be a positive event in your life. It has forced you to move on to another job where the cooking seems more in line with what you want to do. What restaurant are you going to be working at?
 
Well, I have update. The executive chef an GM called me early this morning. They weren't there when It happened, but they said as soon as hey found out about it, they did all they could to get to the bottom of it. They checked the time clock and found out that a dishwasher stayed later than usual, but we weren't busy enough to warrant it. None of us knew he was there, because we were washing our own stuff, so he definitely wasn't doing his job. They called him in las night to talk to him about it and he admitted to taking my knife kit as well as a knife from the chef de cuisine and another knife from another cook.

The knives they lost weren't their good ones. I admi, it is partially my fault for taking the whole second kit with me. I was called in last minute to work a overnight shift. Since I had that day off, I told them I would. They called me at the lat minute to let me know I would be doing a lot of butchering that night, something I don't usually carry knives for in my usual kit since I usually work GM. So I grabbed my second kit tha had my butchering tools without clearing out the ones I didn't need first because I was in a rush to get to work. Normally I don't take that much to work.

Regardless, the dishwasher said he didn't have them anymore, he sold all of them for $200 to send back to his family in his home country. They fired him and the police escorted him out. They mentioned a possible deportation in his future.

I don't feel comfortable mentioning the name of the restaurant right now because they did step it up eventually to figure out what happened. The restaurant that I am moving to is the Ashby Inn in Paris, Va. I start tomorrow.
 
Hey, at least that's a step. Hopefully the police will help lean on the guy to track down whomever he sold them to. That part seems like a no-brainer.

I think the restaurant is still obligated to compensate you for your loss. Perhaps not legally -- but that's the kind of thing that they should step up and make right.

Grrr.

PM coming back on the knife -- will be ready to go out today.
 
It's NEVER your fault when some one steals from you. Just learn from the experience. Glad they caught the guy but now that your employer knows your tools were stole from their premises by one of their employes they have no excuse not to compensate you. This is why they have insurance.
 
at lease you found out what happened and who took it. You have my sympathies though, my coworker chipped my beloved Mario gyuto pretty bad and didn't even bother to tell me i had to find out from another person, and she refuses to pay for it. I thought my situation was bad after reading this i am glad i still have the knife i couldn't imagine losing my whole kit.

i don't have much to offer, but if your in need i have a usuba, and a 10 inch forsner & a 7 inch santoku that i could give you. I know your set on gyutos but i figured id offer anyways.

good luck at the new place!
 
Well this is good to hear if only because it means you don't have to spend the rest of your life wrongly suspecting someone of stealing your knives... I hope the police get somewhere with what they have to go on. I would imagine the idea of some seriously dangerous knives knocking about in the criminal underworld might galvanise them to investigate it a little bit, but maybe DC police are more concerned about guns... Glad to hear the restaurant came through though. Would be nice if you could get an insurance claim from them now that it has all been cleared up and the star chefs are no longer in the frame.

R
 
forget playing nice, if someone messes with your stuff, you ruffle as much feathers as you want. you make as much noise as you want. that's what i would do. police? sure. i'd also make sure they'd never take a knife from anyone again. but that's just me.
 
Bummer. One thing I've learned is not to rush to fill out a police report. The same thing happened to a friend of mine, although they were in his car and the car insurance company covered it.
 
it seems to me that, since they now know one of their employees did it, their general 'slip and fall" insurance policy should make good on it. Although, I suspect (ironically enough) they will need you to take them to small claims court in order for their insurance company to kick in... (Mostly because insurance companies pay if one is sued more easily) You should talk to them about the best way to get their insurance company to pay off...
 
I feel your pain and sympathize with you bud. Glad things sort of got worked out. I dont have much to offer but I do have a 240mm miyabi kaizen gyuto to loan you if youd like. Its a hell of a cutter, yours if ya say go.
 
If he pawned them the Police will recover them although it may take a year+ before they give them back if they hold them for evidence.
 
He didn't say, he just said he sold them. Hopefully they were pawned so they can be recovered.
 
forget playing nice, if someone messes with your stuff, you ruffle as much feathers as you want. you make as much noise as you want. that's what i would do. police? sure. i'd also make sure they'd never take a knife from anyone again. but that's just me.

In the report, I never accused anyone as suspects. I just mentioned eveuone that was there at the time they went missing so there are no hard feelings in that regard.
 
Did he pawn them or sell the someone?

Very relevant question... receiving/ buying a stolen property is never a good transaction. Its still yours and you can get it back. It"s thorough police work . follow the trail .. though you will not get it back immediately as it will be in police "lock=up" as evidence .

The person who bought it shld be called in and questioned and follow the trail.

rgds
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Paris VA is a beautiful place in the countryside. You will need to stop by Whitpost Restorations which is nearby. Amazing car restorations - if you have 100,000 to spend!
 
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