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There is a lot of collective wisdom from all over the globe here now is the time to use it.
 
This is when I hope there are a few MPH on the forum... or a few MD.
 
In response to how long i can last..
I have a water filter 3 bge a palate of lump 2 propane burners chords of fire wood and access to 2 Asian markets. I have mylar storage bags i can store as much rice as i want for pocket change
I can grow greens in the basement
Or garden
I am well versesd and have the stuff to lacto ferment 100's of pounds of veg per year
3 yrs ago i made 400 lbs of sauerkraut.
My son owns enough land that i can. garden and raise chickens for the family his girlfriends family has 14 acres of unused tillable land
I am am experienced gardener. .
Living in a metropolitan burb the local grocery stores offerd online shopping or online and you pick up. Actually my biggest concern is gasoline and collapse of infrastructure. As long as i have gas and water i will be fine. And while coal is frowned upon i can get a coal stove and a truck load of coal.
But first i have to get over the flu
 
I don't see utilities being an issue in thew DC area. City water and sewer will be fine, as will electricity and natural gas. Maybe if a bad storm blows through and takes out power lines there could be an issue of there not being enough repair workers, but that's reaching a bit. food-wise I doubt we will see an issue either. My son is 46 lbs now, so he should last my wife and I for a while.
 
I don't see utilities being an issue in thew DC area. City water and sewer will be fine, as will electricity and natural gas. Maybe if a bad storm blows through and takes out power lines there could be an issue of there not being enough repair workers, but that's reaching a bit. food-wise I doubt we will see an issue either. My son is 46 lbs now, so he should last my wife and I for a while.

I just need to buy more handsanitizer and I couldn't find anything. I live in DC too
 
Isn't this all an over reaction? Im under the impression its no worse than the flu? Just extremely contagious

More contagious, and from what I read some amount (7-20 times, iirc?) more deadly. Not “Seven Days Later” or “Contagion”, but something to at least keep track of. Incidentally, I noticed that Contagion is one of the most popular video rentals on Amazon atm.

I saw a guy on the train with a face mask on, but he was also grabbing the train handrails all over. Like dude, if you don't want to get sick you got your priorities all wrong...

At least the face mask then gets in the way of his hand when he tries to touch his face. I’ve been wondering if they actually could be useful for that reason.
 
I'm not an MD, just a medical student. While yes it is basically just a bad flu, 2% mortality is roughly 20 times as lethal as @ian said, so while there's no reason to panic, one should be prepared.
Wash your hands hourly, avoid too much contact with people and public surfaces, face masks can help, but as long as everyone sneezes into their elbows and avoid spraying it around it should be fine. Do not use disposable gloves because you're less likely to regularly wash your hands then, so they're actually less hygienic. Keep an eye on your temperature and any symptoms exhibited, CALL your GP if you're showing a fever and respiratory issues. Self quarantine is effective.
Remember, the virus can not survive without a host. Basic measures like this are enough in most cases. If your partner exhibits signs, remain 7 feet away from them for a few days to monitor the situation, beyond that, there isn't much you need or even should do. I'd suggest in more affected areas like Washington or northern Italy or Southeast Asia to stock up on basics and food. There's no shortage but people are doing what they do best, panicking, so they end up stocking up and causing the shortage themselves (here in Limburg in the south of Netherlands it's starting to happen due to the affected areas in Germany being so close)
But either way, do not worry, but take it seriously and be prepared, better safe than sorry.
 
Got some surgical masks coming that’s it, No food stocking.

Panic stocking of others may force a diet on me, & finally loose that 10 lb my Dr. had asked me to.
 
So we set out to make a list of things to buy to make it a month of home quarantine if needed. Then I look at the list and it includes things that we have had easily gone a year without using. Funny how you ‘need’ some things when looking a month out but don’t need them on any given day or week.
 
I thought the virus could live up to 9 days without a host. Has that been proven to no longer be the case?

From what I’ve read, previous coronaviruses can live that long without a host, but it highly depends on the type of surface, and noone really knows for sure. I was wondering whether we should all start being afraid of packages shipped from Japan, but apparently there’s no evidence of the virus traveling through the mail at all, much less internationally. I’ll let the med student speak with more authority, though. :)
 
Nine days is the typical range estimated mostly from studies on SARS and MERS; still pretty much accurate figures.

This depends on a lot of things obviously; we're talking ideal surface at room temperature.

I don't think anyone will have to resort to growing cattle and veggies anytime soon.

About masks, to be truly efficient, they have to be adjusted to the face contours. I'm not saying not to use them if you must, just that it can become the very opposite of what it's supposed to do: let's say some of the viruses get under and then you're breathing highly concentrated virus air for the next hours.

Didn't do anything special yet. I've given what I think is logical answers/advice to questions and comments here, but I'm pretty much fatalist in life. If that sh** must come and get me, none of the prep is gonna make any difference. Obviously, the basics of self preservation I dutifully observe, but then again, that's what I do every day. I work in public, and while usually nowhere near lethal, catching bug over bug is a pain in the ass, so I observe a very strict routine there.
 
CDC recommendations released Sat recommend against masks.
They are in very short supply and health care practitioners need them. I have one box leftover from retirement i will give it to my son.
First suspected case in neighboring county announced today.
 
Even a full blown med isn't an authority unless specialized in micro-organisms. Not that anyone else is neither. And the specialist is concerned with a lot of data that is ultimately unusable in practice, for a very tiny part that might be, in any specific case. Then again, coronaviruses of the SARS or MERS lineage are still very obscure, ill-known. They are still under scrutiny to this day, and the available data is sparse and difficult to confirm in real life scenario.
 
Still here (Montco) and they said suspected.
I suspect it won't be added until confirmed.
I am in with the flu. Told my son to pick up canisters of hand wipes sat. CDC recs came out.
sunday i asked him to get a case of travel packages. Wegmans was sold out.
 
Situation dashboard - WHO website

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd

Click on any country for targeted data.

The consensus varies but the R0 for COVID-19 is estimated at worse under 4. This means that any one person infected is likely to infect four others. The number that seems to be widely accepted is 2.5.

I expect that any country with over a hundred cases will have some difficulties to contain. It is nowhere near a big number, and quite manageable, but possibly having 250 other infected people that went through the net becomes 625 on the next day and so on. To mitigate this is the hope that people everywhere will be smart enough not to try to hide this - or worse, hide it while still going on infecting others. It is amazing how people can be deadset on being stupid, at times...
 
Eat a lot of natural vitamins, some fresh garlic, have a proper sleep - simply try to keep your body in a best shape possible.

Wash your hands - properly. Avoid unnecessary gatherings.

But stop hoarding stuff! You are just causing shortages.
 
You’re welcome. Hoarders cleared the shops free of toilet paper, paper towels and soap. In a country of 80 million people with 200 infected.
 
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