The Shuns I've seen have generally been ground as well and cut as well or better than a host of knives I've tried that are FAR more costly. Are there better deals? Yes. Are they gimmicky? Yes. Do they feel wonky? Sure. Are they sub-par or below average? No. I'd say they are in better than average territory as far as cutting and fit and finish. The rest is subjective. I can't believe you people have me defending Shun of all things... :spankarse: