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Would there be interest?

  • Yes, i would be interested. Best idea EVER!!!

  • No... that just seems ridiculous. Stop smoking crack Jon!

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Sadly, an XL option is not possible with these stones. Many have asked about very coarse stones... i'm currently testing coarse stones similar to this. Sadly, they are much more expensive.

Making a video might be possible... just have to find time, which i dont seem to have a lot of now days.

As far as cutting speed through their lives, they are pretty consistent... they are a tiny bit faster the first 2-3 uses, but then they settle into their normal rate and stay that way throughout the life of the stone.

The naguras will be included with these if we decide to go ahead with this.

At this point, it seems like there is significant interest. Maybe i can make a quick video or something to help people get a better sense of what they are like and then we can set up a small first run (maybe 5-10 sets) and see how they go. How does that sound to you guys?
 
I am very interested in these stones so please let me know when they become available because I don't want to miss out on the limited run. Thanks,

Laurie
 
if the run goes well, i am strongly considering permanently adding these to our lineup, so no worries there.
 
question of opinion for some of you that have expressed interest... Would there be 5 people interested in a test run (not prototypes, but just to gauge interest) of these before i make a video or anything like that? I was thinking that better than me making a video, if we can have other peoples opinions on these aside from my obviously biased views, it might be more helpful. What do you guys think? Would you rather the videos or would you rather the forum testers?

Do we have 5 people for this maybe?
 
also, for those interested, here is a similar stone that i bought almost 3 years ago and have used A LOT since then. I have never flattened this stone... not once. I've used a nagura on it a bit though. This is how much it dished after all of this:

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Even at the most dished point, its less than 1mm of height difference from the highest point... and after YEARS of use.
 
JBroida said:
question of opinion for some of you that have expressed interest... Would there be 5 people interested in a test run (not prototypes, but just to gauge interest) of these before i make a video or anything like that? I was thinking that better than me making a video, if we can have other peoples opinions on these aside from my obviously biased views, it might be more helpful. What do you guys think? Would you rather the videos or would you rather the forum testers?

Do we have 5 people for this maybe?
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Jon,

I'll volunteer my meager talents.

Rick
 
I'm intrigued, but I'm sure there are more worthy people for a test run.
 
I'm up for it. I'm definitely curious to see how these guys feel and perform.
 
I'd like to use one. I'd probably buy one too. :)
 
I'm not worthy of the test run, but I'm definitely interested in these stones.
 
Interesting stones, I would be glad to try, but the cost is prohibitive for my budget. It's basically comes down to $150 per stone + shipping + tax.
But that's really cool that you put all this work in to bringing new and possible very awesome products to the western market!!
 
Jon I would indeed love to try these stones, but I guess there are many far more experienced users who will give you much better feedback. Sill - I would not say no if you would insist :)
 
so, i just had another idea... i know a bunch of KKF members are coming here tomorrow to hang out. I'm going to ask them to try these stones out and see what they think. If the results are positive, i will move ahead with the first run of 5-10 sets of them. If those go over well, we will likely add them to our store on a more permanent basis. Sound good to you guys?
 
I'd have to sell off my current stone set to afford this combo though!
 
Jon,
Could you give us an idea of how these compare to your 600/6K? Just a brief idea of what one could expect. Hard/soft, feel, relative cutting speed, lifespan etc.
I'm sure I'm not the only one excited about them, but wondering if they're worth double the $, and if I'll actually be able to make the most of the advantages to make it worth the spend.
Thank you.
 
these are harder than the splash and go gesshin stones. Also faster cutting on both counts. The 6k gesshin leaves a bit nicer mirror finish on edges than the diamond. Life-span-wise these are too new for me to tell yet. I went through about 1 6k per year and am already more than 1/2 way through a 600, but i've had a similar diamond stone last me 3 years with more use than either of the gesshins. I would expect these to be around the same with regard to that.
 
So purely on $/sharpening these diamond stones would actually cost less in the long run. Am I getting it right Jon?
 
So far, that has been my experience... Either less in the long run, or about the same for some stones. But I've also seen people abuse things like this and just get a year or two out of one, which sucks.
 
here are some test videos from a few hours ago...

*i had a few people ask me about the stone holder... its not one that i normally sell and doesnt come with the stone, but i picked it up because the lips are lower and i wear my stones super thin very often.

[video=youtube;E3IQTO29r_s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E3IQTO29r_s[/video]

[video=youtube;RzxNyi2L7kA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RzxNyi2L7kA[/video]

[video=youtube;LTT4v1Vtpz0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LTT4v1Vtpz0[/video]
 
Is this some sort of stone of diamond embedded in ceramic? I'm totally interested.
 
Definitely interested, but will you ever offer these individually or are they only ever going to be in sets?

The stone holder does look cool...too bad you don't stock them.
 
The 1000 grit vid sounds a bit gritty. Grit contamination possibly?
 
its not ceramic per se, but a similar construction. There are many types similar to these, but these are not quite the same as others i've tried. For the first run, i think i will only do them as sets, but depending on how things go, i may be able to do them individually. There are savings involved in the sets, so individually, i think they would be closer to the $180 mark each.

On the stone holder, i actually do stock them. I was wearing my stones a bit thin, and usually i would mount them on something (which is the technically correct thing to do), but i got lazy. The lip on our stone holder with base is a bit too high for some of my worn down stones, so i looked around for a stone holder that would deal well with these worn down stones. I found the one i'm using in the video a few weeks back, and brought in some for myself and some to stock at the store. I think they are going to run $35 if you guys are interested.

On the sound of the 1k, it does sound gritty... i also happened to be closer to it when shooting the videos, so the sound comes through even more. That being said, its an aggressive stone and that is mostly what it sounds like. I didnt set up a nice mic today or anything so the audio is all in-camera audio. I can set up a nicer audio setup next time i shoot videos though if you are interested.
 
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