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Just bought a Tojiro DP 150mm petty for my mom, because she is my mom and doesn't treat herself. I'll give it to her in a few days and resist the urge to use it.

Definitely great value in a entry level stainless knive. Fit and finish is very very good in all respects, certainly better than knives costing many times more money. I can't find a single fit and finish weak spot or place that needs improvement.
The grind is even as the very sharp edge.

Maybe I will get one for my aunt!
 
Not disagreeing with you, tojiro dp are excellent and I recommend them all the time. But there are certainly f&f/ other weak spots.

The choil and spine need some work, rounding or just easing with sandpaper.
They also need a good thinning session.
After that you've got a damn good knife for a very cheap price
 
Yeah, I've owned the Tojiro DP 210 mm gyuto, the utility and the paring knives. They keep showing up as the least expensive high quality VG10 steel knives in my searches. I sold the gyuto but now regret it. The knife I bought (for much more money, used) as a replacement is not as good. Food pieces stick to the sides of it as if they have suction cups on them. This just may be due to how the knife was sharpened and flattened. I don't know. Probably, now that I think of it. But now I'm appreciating the Tojiro even more and wishing I had it back.

On the other hand, I've found that the handles on both the utility and the paring knives are too small. I usually only have three fingers plus the thumb on them, with the pinky dangling off the edge. I rarely use the utility knife for that reason, preferring to go my Moritaka-style wa-handled utility instead. And I rarely use a paring knife for anything.
 
Geo87 said:
Not disagreeing with you, tojiro dp are excellent and I recommend them all the time. But there are certainly f&f/ other weak spots.

The choil and spine need some work, rounding or just easing with sandpaper.
They also need a good thinning session.
After that you've got a damn good knife for a very cheap price
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I noticed the choil and spine could be sandpapered by some but I don't find it sharp, it should not be able to cut anything. Then I realized that my mom likes to use the back (spine) of the knife for tasks and would like the non rounded and not sharp spine so I determined its even more ideal for her. I could hit the choil with sandpaper for her.
 
I am looking at my Tojiro DP and cannot understand the "need thinning" comment - it looks so thin... And yes it is the only (two, utility and gyuto) jknife I own.
 
x737 said:
I am looking at my Tojiro DP and cannot understand the "need thinning" comment - it looks so thin... And yes it is the only (two, utility and gyuto) jknife I own.
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I recommend these knives for apprentices that I work with, I've seen quite a few and they all needed thinning just behind the edge. Not a great deal of thinning, knocking the shoulders off at least.
 
Yeah, could someone explain why thinning would help? What's the thinking behind it?
 
Geo, you make some good points but out of the box I wouldn't say needs thinning, more like could be thinned for even better performance. The DP210G was one of the sharpest OOBE I've ever handled. The spine and choil on my sample were quite square. I used a metal file before a wet dry paper progression to chill them out a little. Let's be sensible, for the $, Tojiro DP are absolutely wonderful knife for a non-knife enthusiast.
 
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I am a knife enthusiast and I bought a DP 150 mm honesuki a few weeks ago. Last night I cut up a chicken with it and I was dazzled. I paid less than $150.00 for it...wow! Great F&F, 90-10 grind, takes and holds a very good edge, and has perfect balance. I think it's not only a great deal, it's a great knife.
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Mucho Bocho said:
Geo, you make some good points but out of the box I wouldn't say needs thinning, more like could be thinned for even better performance.
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Aka needs thinning ;)

But seriously, I've had 3 gyutos and 3 pettys in the past 6 months for apprentices. All the gyutos pulled slightly to the left and didn't cut dense product as well as they could.
Only 10-20 minutes of light thinning just behind the edge and they went from cutting okay to cutting great! Food release wasn't affected by the slight thinning either.
I personally feel the thinning is necessary :)
 
I got a Tojiro paring knife recently. The fit and finish is fine for the price, but the factory grind not so much. It was 80/20, and not sharp at all. A little DIY was required to bring the edge back. I would buy it again though.
 
deanb said:
I am a knife enthusiast and I bought a DP 150 mm honesuki a few weeks ago. Last night I cut up a chicken with it and I was dazzled. I paid less than $150.00 for it...wow! Great F&F, 90-10 grind, takes and holds a very good edge, and has perfect balance. I think it's not only a great deal, it's a great knife.
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Yeah, I have the DP honesuki as well, and it is great. First off it's a knife type that you wouldn't thin anyway, and for some reason the f&f seem better on the honesuki than any other Tojiro I've seen. I have a long list of knives I want, but I can't see ever needing to upgrade to a better honesuki. I only use it maybe once or twice a week though.
 
That's great to hear. I have a DP honesuki on the way.
 
Mucho Bocho said:
Geo, you make some good points but out of the box I wouldn't say needs thinning, more like could be thinned for even better performance. The DP210G was one of the sharpest OOBE I've ever handled. The spine and choil on my sample were quite square. I used a metal file before a wet dry paper progression to chill them out a little. Let's be sensible, for the $, Tojiro DP are absolutely wonderful knife for a non-knife enthusiast.
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This pretty much reflects my experience with Tojiro DP santoku. The steel has even after 6000 grit a lot of bite and goes through stuff like tomato skin perfectly and I noticed to micro-chipping. Edge holding is very good too. I do not like the heavy handle, but that is just a personal preference. All in all - hard to beat in this price class.
 
ah, good. no microchipping on my DP either...
 
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