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One of my 3 nakiri from Karol Karyś:
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Vintage Sugimoto SF4030 small cleaver cutting up stuff for pho. I picked this up as a restoration project thinking it was iron clad with carbon core steel like the normal Sugimoto small cleaver, but it turned out to be monosteel with a differential hardening line. Harder to sharpen than regular Sugimoto, but performs nicely.
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One of my 3 nakiri from Karol Karyś:
Is that the copper/walnut one? The texturing on that ferrule to match the live edge
[Edit] PS shoulda sold me that wakui to help offset the Karys!
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Yes, sir! Copper/walnut it is!Is that the copper/walnut one? The texturing on that ferrule to match the live edge
[Edit] PS shoulda sold me that wakui to help offset the Karys!
And yeah, I would have sold you my Wakui but, boy, you were fast!
It's the cleaver fever
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It spreads like crazy, has hit me badly and there’s no vaccine that helps…It's the cleaver fever
Finished product, butternut squash soup.
Recipe I found called for no acid whatsoever. No lemon juice, no vinegar… well a little splash of both made a big difference.
Recipe I found called for no acid whatsoever. No lemon juice, no vinegar… well a little splash of both made a big difference.
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no rush we have April Rectangle Month, then All Rectangle May,Alright KKF, we just slipped into the second half of ARM24. The clock is ticking but there's still plenty of time to join the ARM'd Forces! Maybe you don't have a rectangle in your arsenal? No worries, ARM is, again, a celebration of the rectangle so there's no better time than now to find one you like and place an order. Buying a rectangle during ARM is the ultimate rectangle salute!
@TokushuKnife has some nice affordable options. Kyohei, Tokushu house brand, a sexy Moritiaka, and more. They have a few cleavers in stock as well. Code KKF15 gets you 15% off!
Remember, we welcome full and part time ARM'd warriors!
Ah, I'm partaking in ARM with one of those so far
It's one of my oldest knives, I got this when they still directly sold to the customers. Maybe 10 years ago? I'd have to look.
I must say, it is still a favorite. I have a good routine managing the iron flanks - just wipe them with some pressure regularly, and the patina doesn't get very intense at all.
The size is just perfect. Sure, you have to give up rocking, but then you get a well-functional tip in front. It's large enough to do some basic scooping but still agile. And the AS steel is very nice, especially for the price. I'm not a steel expert, but I hadn't notice a dramatic difference in performance compared to Denkas.
And that stainless part in the handle just gives me a peace of mind when things get intense.
My only regret is that it is certainly an asymmetrical blade. There is little steering, but for super thin slices, it is better used with the right hand.
When I read some of the comments about rectangles, particularly nakiri, I'm convinced a lot of the people who disparage them have no or very little experience actually using them.
I may try a nakiri one day but can't see what if gain over a Chinese cleaver now I'm used to the size and heft. The only other knife I ever use is a carving knife for sticky cheese and well, carving.
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Cool one from @martinhuber. Gotta make use of it now while I can. Might not qualify for #nonecknovember
Hualicopter
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So I’m contemplating that Sugimoto No 6 vs a Nakiri. I already have a Zwilling Nakiri though not a huge fan of it (prob because it’s not very sharp at the moment). Is there any reason to expect another Nakiri will be more appealing to me?
So first, if you look around you'll find a "... Cleaver Chat..." thread. I once asked the Cleaver Freaks (sorta the SOF of ARM) if the gatewayed on nakiri and it was a resounding no! Then I got a small cleaver and immediately understood. They really are a different experience. So just keep that in mind when considering one over the other.
As to the Zwilling vs. others and you level of satisfaction, the reflex response is yes get a better one! But, before that. it would help you to understand what you don't like about it. If you don't like the general design, a nicer cutting one may not overcome that.
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As a nakiri enthusiast wading my way into cleaverdom...I think they're quite a bit different. I love both, but in my experience nakiri are more nimble and user friendly to beginners. The sugi #6 is a great knife and very pleasant to use, but it's big! You'll notice how much heavier it is (434 g) than your standard 170-210 g nakiri. The weight does all the work for you, it just drops through stuff on its own, but that combined with the 110 mm height make it a much more substantial package than a 55-80 mm tall nakiri. I enjoy it immensely but can't fly through prep like I can with a smaller nakiri. Some of that is just practice and comfort, but they're different beasts. The scoopability of a cleaver is unrivaled and I think it's definitely worth trying one. Sugi grinds are good so it'll be a better experience than a cheap wok shop type cleaver.
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I think you all hit it on the head. I don’t quite love the handle on my Zwilling so I always end up grabbing my other knives, and I think I actually don’t like the balance of it much either so maybe the heft of the cleaver is what I want. But I am definitely open to trying another Nakiri too. I continue to be drawn to the Sugi.
You are new, so learn to sharpen before investing in expensive knives. Some forum favorites for nakiri are shindo for cheap, watanabe for moderate price, and the knife japan thread has a few suggestions for rustic performers that are generally inexpensive.
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All of this is preference. I like a Nakiri for precise work, where it is easy to move one finger over the blad to keep stacks intact. Hard to do that with a Chuka. It's like the difference between a 270 workhorse gyuto and a petty knife.
If I have a lot of prep, I prefer the Sugi -- it powers through anything. I like small, light knives for small jobs and more substantial knives for bigger jobs.
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I’m new here, but figured I should join in on ARM. So I picked up a shi ba zuo 8 inch cleaver on Amazon to give it a try. Figured it was worth a try since people seem to love the rectangles so much. Figure potatoes and cabbage on St. Patty’s Day wasn’t a bad time to start!
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how well does walnut take an edge?
Big batch of shepherd’s pie today seemed appropriate
Well, I didn't know about ARM until M was half-over, and I got other new toys I wanna play with a lot... but I did All Rectangle Weekend at least. 22 working hours Saturday and Sunday, everything from six shotguns of meatloaf to 45 tilapia IQFs and anything else that needed a cutting got done with my CCK.
Chuka go chop chop
Chuka go chop chop
tostadas
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A friend of mine has a zwilling nakiri. I tried it out and I hated it. Feels like someone took a normal chef knife and just cut the front off of it. Also the zwilling stuff in general is overly heavy in the handle area, leading to awkward balance.
So to answer your question, yes I think a better nakiri will be a noticeable improvement. And also a cleaver will be much different from that, perhaps even more preferable.
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Also we have "All Rectangle SEptember" (A.R.S.E)Alright KKF, we just slipped into the second half of ARM24. The clock is ticking but there's still plenty of time to join the ARM'd Forces! Maybe you don't have a rectangle in your arsenal? No worries, ARM is, again, a celebration of the rectangle so there's no better time than now to find one you like and place an order. Buying a rectangle during ARM is the ultimate rectangle salute!
@TokushuKnife has some nice affordable options. Kyohei, Tokushu house brand, a sexy Moritiaka, and more. They have a few cleavers in stock as well. Code KKF15 gets you 15% off!
Remember, we welcome full and part time ARM'd warriors!
No, no. September is Shorty September. Nothing over 200mm. Although some would say it's the same sentiment as what you said.
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nipsy
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No, no. September is Shorty September. Nothing over 200mm. Although some would say the it's the same sentiment as what you said.
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