The knives got here okay. I would say, Crothcript, that the reason you had issues with the flat spot on the Zwilling is because there isn't a flat spot: there is a hole in the edge about 3 inches long, from the heel to the midpoint. The knife is also a pig, towards the heel. Looks like somebody, or several somebodies, had a lot of fun using this for cinder block practice. I'll fix the profile, but I'm not sure if Ben wants me to fix the piggishness. I've only held these in stores (where I have tested the profile for holes and mis-grinds, and have never found any, particularly), and and thus I'm not super versed with the geometry. The Henckels seems like a very nice knife, other than the mis-grind that was applied to it. I really like the distal taper.