Jail Kanji
What started the workhorse craze?
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Jail Kanji
Yea, but I’m sure he would do horse work.
I thought this comment was very interesting so I bought the biggest carrot I could find around me today to do "stress test" - about 66mm (2.6 inches) in diameter close to the stem.
This is not meant to argue against your point. I was simply interested.
I picked five knives that I thought would perform well on thick carrots and cut into the carrot at about 3cm from the stem side with each knife. Four of them were dead silent. The 260mm Kamon made some tiny noises. I think I might have pushed too far and too quickly. If I used the front 1/3 to cut straight down, it might also have been silent.
I experienced a little bit resistance with the 260mm Kamon and the Merion. DT, Kamon monolith and Eddworks went through effortlessly with no sound at all.
All five of these knives have pretty strong distal taper and I don't consider any of them laser.
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Those knives are cool and all but the 66mm wide carrot kinda steals the show.
So I guess finishing on a 400 Chosera is seriously uncool?
Nobody needs an edge that fine unless you're doing sushi in a high end restaurant. I sharpen exclusively on terracotta pots.
lol I went to 3 stores and found this in an Asian supermarket.
why am I summoned? what the hell does my sharpening method have to do with workhorse trend??
Wow. Never realized how tall the handles are on the monoliths.
Analysis on carrot microstructure soon?
We need the refined toothy image back.
You know, I often find that the huge carrots at Asian groceries crack *less* than many of the smaller carrots you find elsewhere. Idk if it’s that they are more moist inside, or what, but sometimes knives just slide through them when they violently crack the little carrots I get elsewhere.
If you are so insecure in your sharpening skills that you need validation of others - I suggest you practice more.
I guess I'm more interested in looking at knives that fail the carrot cracking contest and see if they still cut carrots. If so, then the test itself is irrelevant. Hold my beer!
sumis
Senior Member
if a knife can’t cut carrots silently, choil first, it is too thick.
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Too thick for what?
If a knife can't pop a vent hole in an olive oil can, crack a bamboo skewer in half, or split a cooked chicken sternum without suffering damage then it is too thin!
You are welcome, you really needed it. Dark ages are over for you young padawan.
Yeah, I might get my fancy pants on and jump up to the 800 Chosera now.
800 feels good but I didn't like the edge from it
I'd much rather have good food release than silent carrot cutting as carrots consist of less than 1% of what I use a knife for..
This thread has gotten….interesting
Matt Jacobs
Senior Member
I agree that handle size may be irrelevant but balance is not. To me a workhorse would have a ton of forward balance. I think blade weight and convexity have to be part of the conversation. Almost more so than spine thickness. I have had plenty of 4+mm knives that were in no way a workhorse. I am also not sure how you would classify work like Kamon, Birch & Bevel, Chris Anderson etc. that are using grinds that are thick and convex at the heal and move towards full flat grind thin tips. Eddworks, OEL also come to mind with grinds that change toward the tip. Party in the front, workhorse in the rear!!!
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I worked with a Guatemalan guy once who called the really giant restaurant supply ones horse carrots. He called them that because he claimed in Guatemala they only used ones that got that big to feed the horses. They weren't allowed for human consumption.
Here is the choil shot
In all seriousness, I'll use the 800 in a progression up to either a Shapton 2k or JNS red aoto, but there are plenty of times I'll just do the 400. I still think there's witchcraft involved in the making of that stone. Cuts faster than you'd think and gives a better edge than most medium grit (800-1200ish) stones I've tried.800 feels good but I didn't like the edge from it
And remember: You can put your horse cart horse in front of your horse cart but never put your horse cart in between your horse cart horse and his horse carrot.
