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NakiridAndAfraid

NakiridAndAfraid

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So we can stop swarfing up the Washita thread with non-Washita discussion. 😊

Here's the pics again.

Dirty

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Clean(ish)

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When it was all loaded up with oil and swarf and grime, it had a much different feel and feedback. More slick and slow cutting. It acts like a whole different stone now. I have only limited experience with waterstones, but the feedback feels more like that than an ark. It slurries pretty quick.
Previously, I ren a cheap cleaver over it as a test. I dulled up a better knife, a forged Henckels utility/slicer that takes a wicked edge. This time I spent several minutes at it and got an edge that sliced paper but stopped just shy of shaving arm hairs.
This is the most interesting thing I have bought for a dollar ever!
 
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So, I took the aforementioned vg10 nakiri and spent about 15 to 20 minutes working on it from dead dull. I then gave it five strokes per side on a steel, and five per side on a clean strop. It now shaves arm hair. 😊

This being a knife forum, there really should be a bare-shaved arm emoji.
 
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deltaplex said:
I still can't see the sediment lines on it
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They don't always. When they do it makes them much easier to ID of coarse, but sometimes they are missing, or very hard to see through the old oil staining.

It could be a queer creek I suppose, but the surface looks more Hindo to me. Definitely sandstone though.
 
Oldcook said:
That was what cotedupy said in the Washita thread... I would agree solely on the fact that he said they can hold an insane amount of old oil, and this stone has enough still coming out of it to make me crazy!
There was, of course, dissent. This is the internet, after all! 😅
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Yeah, mine took weeks to clean. And then you think it is done, take it out of the dip, and new oil leaches out to the surface. Eventually I gave up trying to get mine super clean and settled for good enough.
 
Legion74 said:
Yeah, mine took weeks to clean. And then you think it is done, take it out of the dip, and new oil leaches out to the surface. Eventually I gave up trying to get mine super clean and settled for good enough.
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I might have to call it clean enough soon. If I keep buying degreaser that 1 dollar stone might end up costing me more than I realize...
 
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I think the Hindo would be classified as a silt stone whereas the Queer Creek, Ohio Blue ect would be sand stones.

In my limited experience the feedback with the sand stones are hard and gritty, the Hindostan smooth and creamy.

I don't know what that stone is but all the colors and spots can be found on the Hindostan.
 
Desert Rat said:
I think the Hindo would be classified as a silt stone whereas the Queer Creek, Ohio Blue ect would be sand stones.

In my limited experience the feedback with the sand stones are hard and gritty, the Hindostan smooth and creamy.

I don't know what that stone is but all the colors and spots can be found on the Hindostan.
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The feedback is more on the smooth and creamy side.
Regardless of if it's Clear, Queer, Deer, Ohio or Hindostan, I have a wonderful crock pot recipe for it!
 
Oldcook said:
The feedback is more on the smooth and creamy side.
Regardless of if it's Clear, Queer, Deer, Ohio or Hindostan, I have a wonderful crock pot recipe for it!
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I'm a bad judge of stones often getting surprised when I order a stone online, and I haven't met a natural I didn't like in some way. I love the feedback on Hindostans, very pleasant sharpening experience.

I think most naturals seem to do best with the simple carbon steels.
 
It is definitely a Hindostan. Or at least something indistinguishably similar (more on which below).

Hindos don’t always have massively noticeable sedimentary side stripes. The large majority do, but I’ve had a handful where they’re not really visible, and I’ve also seen pics of them cut at the other orientation, ie the stripes on the sides are vertical. Here is a boxed and labelled Hindostan (Norton Fastcut) that doesn’t really have particularly noticeable or linear side stripes:

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Hindos can have spots. Most don’t, some do. I’d never really looked at them much before @deltaplex pointed out that the larger ones were actually more like rings:

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Now, both of those unusual characteristics (lack of stripes, and spots) are things I’d associate with the softer, faster, coarser type of Hindo. For instance - that stone with the spots above doesn’t have side stripes either. And it looks very, very similar to OP’s stone. To the extent that I’ll say with 100% certainty they’re the same thing…

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I’ve written other stuff elsewhere about the ‘Canada Oilstone’, and can dig out some links if anybody’s interested. But I believe they are the coarser softer type of Hindostan, and not from Canada. I’m not 100% certain on this, it could easily be the mysterious Canadian ‘Magog Stone’, but I think the one I have is a Hindo. It’s effectively identical in use and density to the Norton Fastcut in the first picture, though the Norton doesn’t have spots.

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I dedicate this post to @M1k3, who I know has been frantically hitting the refresh button for the best part of 48hrs now. I’m sorry for the delay mate.
 
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Oldcook said:
Sounds like Hindostans need more love.
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They do indeed!

I know @deltaplex and @Desert Rat are big fans, and probably own / have owned more than I have (so don’t take everything I say as gospel).

I found the ring spots thing very interesting, cos I hadn’t looked that closely before, and it shows your stone is definitely the same as my ‘Canada Oilstone’. And as I say - I think they’re Hindostans, but they could be a Canadian stone that’s effectively identical.
 
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How about this one? (only partially de-oiled):
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I’ve just gone and had a play with my Canada Oilstone to remind myself, and it’s actually quite a lot more unusual than I remembered…

It’s very coarse. No more than 1k, and probably more like 700.

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It’s pretty friable. I can’t think of another natural stone that is this soft and coarse, whilst still being consistent enough to not randomly release large chunks of grit occasionally.

As you’d expect from a coarse and friable stone - it’s really quite quick.

I can get it to do this:

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But it certainly wasn’t a dead clean drop. Nor was it particularly easy to even get that, because there’s a significant amount of slurry dulling effect unless you keep cleaning the surface. Very good kitchen knife edge nonetheless, if you like stuff at the bottom end of ‘mid grit’.

It’s very possible this isn’t a Hindostan tbh.
 
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Oldcook said:
LOL!
We'll soon be seeing posts like:

If you're in South Bend, Mrs. Adams is best for carbon steel, whereas Mr. Franks is greaf for stainless... Fred Jones (not Francis Jones) is a fast cutter...
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Nancy Volquartsen, who was a dish when alive, is now severely dished …
 
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