I have no idea how he manages to turn a profit. That's an insane deal. Such a good knife for the $
I have no idea how he manages to turn a profit. That's an insane deal. Such a good knife for the $
Maybe it just tells you what sort of markup there is on other retailers storefronts.I have no idea how he manages to turn a profit. That's an insane deal. Such a good knife for the $
Maybe it just tells you what sort of markup there is on other retailers storefronts.
Agreed. He posts so many good deals on his story that I had to make those notifications show up as importantI have no idea how he manages to turn a profit. That's an insane deal. Such a good knife for the $
I am more worried about how the bladesmiths manage to turn a profit with greedy distributors like that. Or better how the bladesmiths adjust the quality long-term to be able to make blades at that price.I have no idea how he manages to turn a profit.
I am more worried about how the bladesmiths manage to turn a profit with greedy distributors like that. Or better how the bladesmiths adjust the quality long-term to be able to make blades at that price.
It is real easy to see that pushing prices further and further down is neither good for the art nor the artists.
(Unless you do it like TF:lower quality and raise prices)
You can't increase prices and decrease quality. Or you could for a very short period of time on a popular product. In the world of good communication and many, many alternatives this scenario is not sustainable. But what about TF, TF since we need to mention TF in every thread. Well, there must be something about these knives that makes people buy them even with claimed horrible quality and outrageous prices.I am more worried about how the bladesmiths manage to turn a profit with greedy distributors like that. Or better how the bladesmiths adjust the quality long-term to be able to make blades at that price.
It is real easy to see that pushing prices further and further down is neither good for the art nor the artists.
(Unless you do it like TF:lower quality and raise prices)
It’s a little incomprehensible… I saw a 180 Denka resale for 500…I thought that listed new for 400 from TF last yearYou can't increase prices and decrease quality. Or you could for a very short period of time on a popular product. In the world of good communication and many, many alternatives this scenario is not sustainable. But what about TF, TF since we need to mention TF in every thread. Well, there must be something about these knives that makes people buy them even with claimed horrible quality and outrageous prices.
Of course not and hats not what i said; ignoring the last sentence which was half a joke.You can't increase prices and decrease quality
He might not be and i hate judging but he is using aggressive marketing to move his stuff fast. And i seriously doubt the quality when i see a santoku made out of B1 steel with a fancy handle below 100$ (was it Hatsukokoro or ehatever hr was selling)He's not being greedy.
Of course not and hats not what i said; ignoring the last sentence which was half a joke.
He might not be and i hate judging but he is using aggressive marketing to move his stuff fast. And i seriously doubt the quality when i see a santoku made out of B1 steel with a fancy handle below 100$ (was it Hatsukokoro or ehatever hr was selling)
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I second that.I've purchased a number of knives from Phil under his various sales. I got exactly what I expected relative to the given price point. The Hatusokoro that I got under $100 was a little rough on F&F but the steel and blade were good. He does these same sales with more expensive stuff. There's no quality difference in the sale product vs. full-price product.
This is a win for the consumer and drives competition. Nothing at all wrong with aggressive marketing. In the end, the market and consumer decides what is best.
Sorry I disagree. Generally speaking TF has improved their grinds over the years. And their HT is top shelf for AS and W#1, always has been. The only time things took a dive was after Yhuki and Gaku left to start Isamitsu. TF was clearly unaware of the departures until it was announced and Yhuki was one of the main (if not the main) blade smith at the factory. For a few months the blades were super chonk. The only F&F thats remained doggedly consistent is the poor bolster welding and Yo handle scale installation. I believe a third party does this work for both TF and Isamitsu.(Unless you do it like TF:lower quality and raise prices)
His handle choice is often contentious and cheapens the knives IMO. No criticism of the blades though. No bait and switch there.I've purchased a number of knives from Phil under his various sales. I got exactly what I expected relative to the given price point. The Hatusokoro that I got under $100 was a little rough on F&F but the steel and blade were good. He does these same sales with more expensive stuff. There's no quality difference in the sale product vs. full-price product.
This is a win for the consumer and drives competition. Nothing at all wrong with aggressive marketing. In the end, the market and consumer decides what is best.
You are making a few baseless assumptions. Customers control knife prices, not the maker, not the distributer. There are no quality issues on the knives he sells, if he wants to cut his profits on some items for marketing purpose that is entirely up to him.Of course not and hats not what i said; ignoring the last sentence which was half a joke.
He might not be and i hate judging but he is using aggressive marketing to move his stuff fast. And i seriously doubt the quality when i see a santoku made out of B1 steel with a fancy handle below 100$ (was it Hatsukokoro or ehatever hr was selling)
It's the most common spelling in Sweden.Interesting. I only asked as spelling with a K tends to be rare, but is common in my background (Estonian)
Maybe it just tells you what sort of markup there is on other retailers storefronts.
Or that he know how to manage his costs and inventory. More than one way to play the books.
Don’t forget to take various VAT / GST, customers, duties and inventory taxes into account too.Both are probably true. Expect dealer markups to be upwards of 100% for many items… It’s not greed. This is an industry with exceptionally high inventory costs, and a pretty niche market. This is going to vary depending on the overhead of each shop. Part of the reason those California shops have “absurd” pricing. They don’t really have a choice given the location.
Is Eating Tools based in California?Both are probably true. Expect dealer markups to be upwards of 100% for many items… It’s not greed. This is an industry with exceptionally high inventory costs, and a pretty niche market. This is going to vary depending on the overhead of each shop. Part of the reason those California shops have “absurd” pricing. They don’t really have a choice given the location.
I think they're in New York.Is Eating Tools based in California?
The other big knife shops here don't seem overpriced to me (JKI and Bernal).
Yes Staten Island to be precise.I think they're in New York.
That hardly counts.Yes Staten Island to be precise.
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