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Hi KKF,

New to the knife game (what a deep rabbit hole I've already experienced), and looking for some beginner info on general sharpening. Apologies if something like this already exists in here, however I wasn't able to find anything I thought was "beginner friendly."

Any and all resources are greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
Steve
 
Start with the JKI sharpening series (on YT ior the JKI website) and the knifeplanet.net sharpening school.

Once you have the basics down, the next big issue is deburring. There are many threads on deburring techniques.
 
And once you get the basics down, it is best to just jump in. Preferably you have some reasonably priced knives, but it can be detrimental to practice on cheap stainless steel as it can be a bitch to get sharp. The fear of screwing up can be daunting, but most things with knives can be fixed.

Welcome!
 
Thank you both for your insight! Is there a general rule of thumb when it comes to acquiring stones? Seems like there's quite the thread on JNat stones, but wasn't sure if that's where I should start right away.
 
If you get synthetics lotta good synthetics. What is your price range? There are a lot more good stones than the ones I listed just something off the top of my head those are my go tos. Jnats are a real rabbit hole in and of itself. Callin @ethompson

Lower cost ones that are good are
Shapton, Cerax are both good

Procter options are like chosera pro.
 
ISTR there were howto, faq, and wiki resources out there, but maybe with the evolution of reddit those have disappeared

Reddit’s surviving 1k recommendation is kind of tongue in cheek but not wrong, as @mc2442 says above

The pinned threads at Maintenance Tutorials & Related Useful Information do read as advanced material.

There ought to be a post or thread that gathers in one place:

Why you shouldn’t buy the cheap blue/white pebbles on Amazon
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/no-name-amazon-stones-review.55923/
What first stone to buy at various price points, different brands
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/starting-stones-shapton.64004/
What second stone
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/what-whetstone-should-i-get.68005/
What old-school-cool stone
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/the-greatest-sharpening-stone-in-the-world.57999/
What beginner books, posts, videos to study
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/...beginners-tutorial-on-knife-sharpening.61077/
What beginner knives to buy and what to avoid, at various price points, modulo regional vendors
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/help-choosing-first-gyuoto.67992/
Why not to proceed to a custom right away, though a knife making class could be an intriguing entry point
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/first-knives-but-which-one.67861/
 
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Thank you both for your insight! Is there a general rule of thumb when it comes to acquiring stones? Seems like there's quite the thread on JNat stones, but wasn't sure if that's where I should start right away.

You do not want JNats right now. Starting out, I recommend sticking with synthetics and the first question you need to answer for yourself is if you want to go with soakers or splash and go. Generally speaking, soakers give more feedback and SnG are less fuss. I like SnG and especially Shaptons and I really love Shapton Glass stones.

An SG500 and SG2k are a great combination from beginner to advanced.

Get a flattening plate. Atoma's are well regarded. I also recommend a stone holder.

@Nemo's video recommendations are excellent.

You'll have set backs but don't get discouraged. You can do it. It'll come together.

The forum can give feedback so don't be afraid to ask!
 
Start with synthetic stones. Jnats and other naturals are a whole nother level of complexity.

What knives are you sharpening?

For Western Stainless (Wustoff, Victorinox, etc), I suggest a coarse (circa 500) to raise a burr and a medium (circa 1k) to remove it. Any finer will risk abrading the soft steel matrix, leaving the carbides standing proud (and not very sharp) on your edge.

For most Japanese and similar knives, you will need a medium stone. Once you can create a clean, deburred edge on a 1k, a fine stone (circa 3-5k) is useful. You will eventually need a coarse stone for thinning.

Any decent brand stone will do the trick. Shapton (great bang for buck but feedback not as good as some), Naniwa (the Chosera/ Pro line is what I use most and gives amongst the best feedback), King (get the hyper if sharpening stainless), Morohei, Nanohone, Imanishi, Suehiro are some examples. Gesshin stones have a lot of hardcore fans and JNS stones are also very good.

The different stone lines have differences in various characteristics such as:
1) The need to soak (vs. "Splash and go"),
2) Feedback (aural and tactile),
3) Cutting speed,
4) Ability to cut high alloy steels,
5) Resistance to loading/ clogging when cutting stainless,
6) Stone hardness,
7) Polishing characteristics (I.e.: kasumi-like finishes),
8) Price,
9) Some stones are not easy to acquire in some parts of the world.

You will also need a device to keep your stones flat. I use the handled version of the Atoma 140 and I can recommend it.

It should be noted that some Shapton stones are coarser than their advertised grit, notably the Pro 1K, which is around 800ish I guess. Naniwa stones tend to be finer than their advertised grit. Multiplying a Naniwa 's grit by 1.3 will give a reasonable approximation of the actual grit.
 
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Also, something we don't stress enough to new sharpeners is to take your time. In the videos people's hands are always moving in a blur. Speed comes with experience so don't worry about it. Focus on technique and studying what is happening and speed will come.
 
Another thing, stick with one teacher/series of sharpening videos. Once you are getting the hang of it, then watch other videos (not Ryky/Butrfection though) and experiment with different techniques and methods.
 
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