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New member with a modest knife collection. I have a question regarding the CCK cleavers, specifically, the variations of marking on their cleavers over time. For example, I know their phone number underwent minor modifications several times, which is reflected on the markings of knives they produced during different era. In addition, although the remaining information displayed with the markings largely remain unchanged over time, the styles of the markings did change at different points of time. The most notable (notorious) one is perhaps the transition to the lasered markings with a QR code. However, before this, there seem to have been changes in styles as well. For example, I've seen CCK cleavers with markings with different fonts and are crooked/misaligned, which I thought could be counterfeit. I wonder if someone knowledgeable with CCK cleavers could provide some information on these changes over time. I have not been able to find any such information online so far, and thought that such information may be useful for people who are interested either in owning the CCK cleavers or knowing a bit more about its history. Importantly, for the former practical purpose of collecting CCK cleavers, I know for a fact that there are a HUGE number of counterfeit CCKs in circulation in China and the vicinities. I myself could hardly tell the fake ones from the real ones by the markings (I'm talking about the old style printed markings). I do not konw to what extent these counterfeits enter the US and North American market. But given how often I come acros counterfeit knives from other makers in the US, such as the Japanese manufacturer Global, and the current price of CCK cleavers, I am suspecting a non-trivial number. The Thunder group, which is a reputable business, for example, is selling cleavers allegedly made in Taiwan that has markings closely resembling the CCK cleavers, with the exception of one Chinese character (which happens to be the most significant characters, i.e., the family name character of Chan in Chan Chi Kee) and a different telephone number. I HIGHLY doubt that CCK manufactured these knives for the Thunder group.
 
welcome! its a shame theres not more information online about CCK, though it seems interest is only increasing in the company. what i will say though is that if there were counterfeits being made, it surely has only been worth doing in the last 5 years at most. cck knives here in hong kong still go for so little (45usd) that there's only really enough demand for counterfeits in the western reselling market, and that demand has not been around for that long.
i had a look at thunder group, im not sure u could necessarily call them counterfeit or rebadged cck knives. cck is just one of many different companies that make knives to this spec.
 
fragrantknife said:
welcome! its a shame theres not more information online about CCK, though it seems interest is only increasing in the company. what i will say though is that if there were counterfeits being made, it surely has only been worth doing in the last 5 years at most. cck knives here in hong kong still go for so little (45usd) that there's only really enough demand for counterfeits in the western reselling market, and that demand has not been around for that long.
i had a look at thunder group, im not sure u could necessarily call them counterfeit or rebadged cck knives. cck is just one of many different companies that make knives to this spec.
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Thank you for your thought. There are actually tons of counterfeit CCKs knives in mainland China. $45 is not a small amount in the Chinese kitchen knife market, so the incentives to make counterfeits are there. If you search on the Chinese online shopping platforms, you see a lot of fakes, some sold for as little as $10. I don't think people who are not familiar with CCKs can tell the difference between the real one and the counterfeits.
 
fragrantknife said:
welcome! its a shame theres not more information online about CCK, though it seems interest is only increasing in the company. what i will say though is that if there were counterfeits being made, it surely has only been worth doing in the last 5 years at most. cck knives here in hong kong still go for so little (45usd) that there's only really enough demand for counterfeits in the western reselling market, and that demand has not been around for that long.
i had a look at thunder group, im not sure u could necessarily call them counterfeit or rebadged cck knives. cck is just one of many different companies that make knives to this spec.
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Regarding the Thunder Group's Ping knife, they have brand marking that is almost identical to CCK, with a very small tweaking of the Chinese characters.
 
altaiga said:
Thank you for your thought. There are actually tons of counterfeit CCKs knives in mainland China. $45 is not a small amount in the Chinese kitchen knife market, so the incentives to make counterfeits are there. If you search on the Chinese online shopping platforms, you see a lot of fakes, some sold for as little as $10. I don't think people who are not familiar with CCKs can tell the difference between the real one and the counterfeits.
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oh thats interesting. these use the exact same markings as the authentic CCKs?
 
altaiga said:
Regarding the Thunder Group's Ping knife, they have brand marking that is almost identical to CCK, with a very small tweaking of the Chinese characters.
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my small slicer from au lee cheong bought from their store in Hong Kong has almost the exact same dimensions as my CCK small slicer, and the stamp in the same place. the only difference is the words in the stamp. would you call this counterfeit?
 
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fragrantknife said:
my small slicer from au lee cheong bought from their store in Hong Kong has almost the exact same dimensions as my CCK small slicer, and the stamp in the same place. the only difference is the words in the stamp. would you call this counterfeit?
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The Thunder Group's Ping knife has the brand marking of 東枝記, and CCK's marking is 陳枝記...And the design of the markings look exactly the same. I think it's bordering counterfeits pretty closely, although not exactly.
 
altaiga said:
The Thunder Group's Ping knife has the brand marking of 東枝記, and CCK's marking is 陳枝記...And the design of the markings look exactly the same. I think it's bordering counterfeits pretty closely, although not exactly.
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I wouldn’t say so. 東 and 陳 are two very different characters. Not much in common
 
fragrantknife said:
that's very interesting. do you have a link? i would love to test these counterfeits
Dr. Knives said:
I wouldn’t say so. 東 and 陳 are two very different characters. Not much in common
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You can see for yourself the markings on the knife. To me, it looks deceptive. Even the address is CCK's address. The knife, however, is claimed to be made in Taiwan:　
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