Kato Kurouchi on Ohira Renge Suita

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Badgertooth

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It seems it's suita week on the forum and I've been fielding questions about them and reading some great reviews and opinions on them, thank you Smash and all who contribute.

It prompted me to dig out mine. A lot of sentimental value is attached to it as it's the stone that sent me down the rabbit hole...

My very first jnat.

I am eternally grateful to Watanabe for his hand-holding through the process, it was a scary amount of money to spend on a leap into the unknown. But what a leap it was.



Here is a closeup of the intense renge patterning running through this stone. Each time I use and observe it, I take something else away from the subtle interplay of colour and pattern. Last night the the Kan ripples were what I noticed.




I recently acquired a Kurouchi Kato gyuto. This is important because I'm usually pretty gung ho about what I chuck at a stone. I have no sacred cows but I really wanted to think on the first stone that I'd use on this Kato as it arrived with the best edge and polish I've ever seen. Ohira mania this week reminded of that I had just the number wrapped and ready in a patterned tenugui cloth

This stone cuts like almost no other finisher I can think of. This is from a standing start with no nagura or diamond lapping.





The steel sings on this stone. Member Omega got me to thinking. He posed the question, "How would you replicate a Kato edge?" And I hope it's ok that I partially answer an aspect of it here. I might never be able to replicate the finesse that comes from training and years of experience as a swordsmith. But I could pay his skill homage by putting it to the right stone with the right mindfulness and technique. When it needs more than a touch up on a finisher I'll put it on a Chosera 1k or a JNS 1k for a really accurate crisp bevel. Then a harder Aoto for pre-polishing and scratch removal. Then an Aizu. Then this bad boy.



A little summin summin I had fun making.


https://youtu.be/zzmNDualpBQ
 
Beautiful stone and knife, the video review helps give a sense of time above and beyond what pics and text can.

How do you find the KU Kato compared to standard Kato or workhorse? I recall you and T got the special edition KU so not sure if it's different. I also got a KU on BST back in May but not special which coincidently arrived today in a shipment of other goodies from the USA.
 
Beautiful stone and knife, the video review helps give a sense of time above and beyond what pics and text can.

How do you find the KU Kato compared to standard Kato or workhorse? I recall you and T got the special edition KU so not sure if it's different. I also got a KU on BST back in May but not special which coincidently arrived today in a shipment of other goodies from the USA.

I don't have a standard Kato but I have a workhorse 210 + the special KU 240 one. I prefer the KU one.. it just cuts and feels better to use than the JNS one.
 
Uuuugh... the stone AND the knife are so freaking gorgeous. Every picture I see of that KU makes me lust for it more.
 
Daaaaaang, Badger! That is one hell of a stone to start with, haha!

LOVE the production on your video! You do a great job keeping your angle consistent.

I know it sounds weird, but that swarf looks so 'pure'. Probably a combination of a wonderful stone (that's also so fast!) and excellent craftsmanship on the Kato.

You lucky dog. Woof!
 
Nice one Badger, you've showed me pictures of it before but the renge on that stone is something else. Guess that Kato KU aint too hard to look at either...
 
Neat. I am too poor to gamble on expensive stones, but looks like you have a nice one.
 
WOWWWWW! Thats a super awesome clean piece of suita of doom! it has no lines running trough the stone and that orange swirls are amazing!
The stone looks like a piece of wagyu meat ;)

Dang , this stone is fast like lightning! thats instant black ink! ;) (jesus i gotta try mine tomorrow so that i not get depressed ;)) )
Also my kind of Stone setup.. T-nats or JNS1000 , Aizu,Ohira Uchigumori , and then a Ohira Shiro Suita Aka Renge and Ao renge if needed.

very cool video! And i guess this stone is worth anything you payed! and best regards Daniel
 
ok its not so unsimilar to yours ;)
i also got some orange stuff on mine in one corner but the swirls on yours just look amazing and mine has got lines.
but the speed of your stone is just insane!

i hope its ok to post it again here
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How do you find the KU Kato compared to standard Kato or workhorse? I recall you and T got the special edition


It's my favourite of the three, probably on account of its uniqueness and the care that has gone into the grind and the edge. It's more like a wide-bevel than that complex differential geometry that Asteger pointed out in the standard Kato. And less beefy than the workhorse. That grind does still drop off impressively from grind apex to the edge for that Kato magic. Funny enough, each feels utterly different on the stones, I don't know if it's HT or steel or both.

Workhorse is the most authoritative through the cut
Standard is the most precise with the best distal taper. My onion knife.

And this sits somewhere between the two.
 
ok its not so unsimilar to yours ;)
i also got some orange stuff on mine in one corner but the swirls on yours just look amazing and mine has got lines.
but the speed of your stone is just insane!

i hope its ok to post it again here
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Kein problem!! The more the merrier
 
COol ;) and interesting stuff about your different Katos.
Still it seems to work awesome on that stone of yours!
 
I am just testing very similar stone from Maxim (the stone belons to Krakorak) and can pretty much confirm your experience. The stone is very fast. I have only used it on the bevel so far, not on edge yet. It gives finish only slightly finet than Uchigumori, but it is faster. I will try it directly after 1k and 2k synthetic stoned. It also feels fantastic.
 
I am just testing very similar stone from Maxim (the stone belons to Krakorak) and can pretty much confirm your experience. The stone is very fast. I have only used it on the bevel so far, not on edge yet. It gives finish only slightly finet than Uchigumori, but it is faster. I will try it directly after 1k and 2k synthetic stoned. It also feels fantastic.

Wait till you try the edge... holy moly
 
Wow! Isn't this the holy grail of suita stones!

The edge it leaves, the cutting speed, the purple renge pattern, and the wood grain patterns! :pirate1:
 
Yep ;)

Well i thought this after using my stone for 10 seconds,
everything was supreme on that stone. I had the biggest Porn smile in my face ever ;) ( well ehh.. only regarding stones and no real porn ;) )

I just bought it blindly just from the photos and description, but actually after seeing the photos 5 seconds later i was sure "Jackpot" .. well i was looking for this one for more than half a year (i searched all the known sites daily for this) and was actually only looking for "ohira shiro suita badass bricksize aka renge".. and of course i recognized that jewel the moment i saw it ;)
..well actually i was crazy lucky ;))..

Thats why those ohira suitas are so recommended by japanese carpenters and also knife makers.
.seeya daniel!
 

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