lets have a new razor thread.

[Rangen]

tamahagane has not been made for like 10 years so dont fall for this.

Apparently...not. I have every reason to believe that I have a recent production Iwasaki tamahagane, purchased through Heiji.

 

[inferno]

hehe i just remembered. when i got the new 2021 klar soaps i actually wrote the retailer and complained. they didn't smell anything at all!
the klar sport had basically 0 smell ootb. and the klassik only very minor.

and i was pissed because of this.

but after 2-3 uses they smell just as much if not more than my old 2008 stock. smell exactly the same too. so you basically need to penetrate some skin with them. then they open up. just so you know, if you are getting a klar. i recommend the klassik. the sport is basically just a milder smelling klassik.

 

[inferno]

Apparently...not. I have every reason to believe that I have a recent production Iwasaki tamahagane, purchased through Heiji.

u sure? i'm not at all sure. just so you know. but i have read in several places that the tamahagane ones has not been in production for several years, maybe 10. but yeah i'm not really read into iwasakis. i just have 1 iwasaki. that i haven't shaved with for many years : )

 

[user 16756]

i've been looking into sterling and GD (cant get these here without importing, and its a fukn hassle now with the covid.) and A & E. and also everything these guys carry.
https://en.nordicshaving.com/category/8/shaving-soaps?per_page=100&sort=search&page=1
i have ordered from them before and its next day shipping to me!

thinking about cannbliss santal and
https://en.nordicshaving.com/product/1907/ariana--evans-cannabliss-santal-shaving-soap-118-ml
and this absith one. (i have gotten wasted on absinthe and it works. dont remeber jack **** from that night)
https://en.nordicshaving.com/product/1331/extr-absinthium-artemisia-shaving-soap-150-ml
they also have zingari man.

also leaning towards these 2.

https://en.nordicshaving.com/produc...ccoutrements-astra-planeta-shaving-soap-140-g
https://en.nordicshaving.com/produc...coutrements-future-fiction-shaving-soap-140-g

there's a lot of great soaps, but IMO none are actually better than A&E. as good as anything out there, and better than most.

 

[inferno]

there's a lot of great soaps, but IMO none are actually better than A&E. as good as anything out there, and better than most.

i see i see.

yeah next saop will be one of these then.

 

[inferno]

i have bought some razor lots lately.

i'm trying to restore these to at least presentable condition. they should be fairly shiny.
with the big wade and butcher its simply not gonna happen. the pitting is so deep i'll have to remove all of the blade etching too.
and its even worse where the brand stamping is. but its only etched here. to boot.

well, i think i have found some gems here. that no one else was willing to dig into.

both of the frederick reynolds razors. for instance. looks good superficially but in reality its rrally really much work.
one of them was completely black with very deep pitting. but hey i got a bosch drill to speed things up. **** hand sanding.

i have noticed that almost all old 1800eds razors are finish ground on about an 75-80mm wheel, except for the wedges and those seems to be 10 inch/250mm.

i have invested in felt wheels of 80 and 75mm and then sandpaper 3m cubitron purple ones. 120 grit. DONT EVER GO below 100 grit. you will never ever get the scratches out. EVER!!!!!

start at 120.

my method of restoring these is:

brass wire brush in the bosch drill.
oxalic acid 10 minutes.
brass wire brush again.
oxalic acid again
cubitron sandpaper 120 grit
70mm radial lammelae sandpaper round thing. to correct the grind. 120 grit.
70mm radial lammelae sandpaper round thing. 240 grit.

then i move onto the 80 mm felt wheel, i use "coarse" paste, well its a ****ing hard bar.

then i have manually polished some of them with flitz. (gray one). but this **** must be for a lot better finished **** than this lol. yeah it will be my last finish but for now i think i'm gonna load up a felt wheel with fine paste. never tried it though.


below we have
r.h and sons
fred fenney
wade and butcher
wade and butcher
c. crookes
worth, b. worth and sons.
frederick reynolds

these are smaller razos maybe avaraging at 5/8 or so.
these are maybe 50% done.

 

[inferno]

and those 4 you see above are my premium ones. the text shows up a bit bad in the pics but its the exposure of the cam.
do i want to show you the razors or the text? i can't have both it seems.
yeah they look better in reality. except for no3 down wade and butcher. it looks like **** and its so pitted i'd rather suck an elephants dick.
the pitting is so deep. never gonna be really pretty ever again. but the text is actually not half gone in reality. its 100% there.
this one isa actually 100% done. no more work will be done to it. its just gonna wear its battle scars with pride. and as a plus. i don't have to baby it.
yeah i'm saving the ****** stuff for myself. lol.

these are between 7/8 and 6/8, they look bigger but they are not. no2 reynolds is the biggest.

wade and butcher for barbers use
frederich reynolds
wade and butcher "medium size hollow ground" (it shows us better in reality)
frederick reynolds

I REALLY LIKE these humpbacks like the lowset reynolds. its so ****ing awesome this is just pure manufacturing ****ing porn!!

i have won a george wostenholm razor of the same design on ebay.
and i think i'm gonna gwet another wade and butcher of the same style.

then i'll be set for life
or maybe not.

 

[inferno]

thisa is for the above post i'm drunk. to ease the pain.

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buuut....
i dont know if anyone of you can help me out here.

i seem to have have accumulated this smaller tapered frederick fenney.
frederick fenney used the "tally ho" with running fox imprint for the last years of his life. probably at last 15-30 years.
then bingham bought the tally ho tademark.
he started making razors in 1822, and died in 1852,

but this one just says:

fred*
fenney

do you think its real?

this must be 1830-1840ies or so, if its not faked.
any guesses are welcome here.

apparantly the the "tally ho" trademark was granted in 1833.

i paste what i found on badger and blade


PapaFish

Nice razor!
It likely said "Frederick Fenney Sheffield"
Check out this link. I was wrong, Tally Ho was granted in 1833. See POST #5 of this Tally Ho thread at SRP.
"Frederick Fenney was apprenticed to a razor maker in 1813, became a razor maker in his own right in 1822 and was granted the 'Tally-Ho' mark in 1833. He died on 25th of March 1852. A 'gentleman and merchant' called Charles Thomas Bingham bought the famous mark and razors continued to be manufactured with 'C. T. Bingham late F. Fenney' stamped on them. Bingham sold the Tally-Ho works in 1863, and George Wostenholm bought the rights to the famous mark."
So your razor is potentially dated between 1822 and 1833. That is if the Tally Ho mark is not warn off. I had found that information back when I was looking for historical context to my Iowa Hawk Eye Razor, a C.T. Bingham, Late F. Fenney. Yours seems to have a much more truncated tail than mine, indicating it is likely older. It also appears to have original horn scales, I'm jealous! I am replacing the scales on mine (they weren't original and really didn't fit the razor). Keep it all original, give it a good polish, and hone it up, you have a real nice one there! BTW, your barber's notch is not unfounded, mine has one too.

 

[inferno]

here is my humpback fred reynolds saying hi while chilling out next to my beers its so happy. can you tell?
its been in a shithole filled with ****, and holes, for at least 100 years and now finally someone shows it some love.
the love that it deserves.

 

[stringer]

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thisa is for the above post i'm drunk. to ease the pain.

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buuut....
i dont know if anyone of you can help me out here.

i seem to have have accumulated this smaller tapered frederick fenney.
frederick fenney used the "tally ho" with running fox imprint for the last years of his life. probably at last 15-30 years.
then bingham bought the tally ho tademark.
he started making razors in 1822, and died in 1852,

but this one just says:

fred*
fenney

do you think its real?

this must be 1830-1840ies or so, if its not faked.
any guesses are welcome here.

apparantly the the "tally ho" trademark was granted in 1833.

i paste what i found on badger and blade


PapaFish

Nice razor!
It likely said "Frederick Fenney Sheffield"
Check out this link. I was wrong, Tally Ho was granted in 1833. See POST #5 of this Tally Ho thread at SRP.
"Frederick Fenney was apprenticed to a razor maker in 1813, became a razor maker in his own right in 1822 and was granted the 'Tally-Ho' mark in 1833. He died on 25th of March 1852. A 'gentleman and merchant' called Charles Thomas Bingham bought the famous mark and razors continued to be manufactured with 'C. T. Bingham late F. Fenney' stamped on them. Bingham sold the Tally-Ho works in 1863, and George Wostenholm bought the rights to the famous mark."
So your razor is potentially dated between 1822 and 1833. That is if the Tally Ho mark is not warn off. I had found that information back when I was looking for historical context to my Iowa Hawk Eye Razor, a C.T. Bingham, Late F. Fenney. Yours seems to have a much more truncated tail than mine, indicating it is likely older. It also appears to have original horn scales, I'm jealous! I am replacing the scales on mine (they weren't original and really didn't fit the razor). Keep it all original, give it a good polish, and hone it up, you have a real nice one there! BTW, your barber's notch is not unfounded, mine has one too.

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I don't think it's a fake. My book says 1824-1846 for Fenney. I would say early 1830s is a good bet. It probably wasn't originally that hollow. Looks like it was probably period reground a couple of times. But by someone who knew what they were doing. In pretty good shape for close to a hundred years old. Nice find.

 

[inferno]

the feney had the best finish of them all, i'd say it was ground on a 3-4 inch wheel.

i really like it. i think this is my most premium razor. because as far as i know this is the most bad ass of them all.
(i really like the lauterjungs too) premium qual no **** stringer.

 

[inferno]

they probably didn't have any way to even grind this hollow in the early 1800ies right?

 

[inferno]

I don't think it's a fake. My book says 1824-1846 for Fenney. I would say early 1830s is a good bet. It probably wasn't originally that hollow. Looks like it was probably period reground a couple of times. But by someone who knew what they were doing. In pretty good shape for close to a hundred years old. Nice find.

stringer can you elaborate more on the regrindiing that might have happened. its seems very very plausible to me that you are right. since most razors of this time period are "antique" style.

 

[inferno]

anyway i'm glad i have it. i think its my most exotic one so far. asnd i', nevber gona sell it. and knew that asd soon as i saw it. never gonn a happen. its too unique. with the sloping grind and all.

 

[inferno]

 

[stringer]

stringer can you elaborate more on the regrindiing that might have happened. its seems very very plausible to me that you are right. since most razors of this time period are "antique" style.

It's hard to say, now that I look closer it appears to be a normal double shoulder. But when I first glanced I saw some scratch marks that I thought might indicate a regrind. But that could be from you cleaning it up. It's impossible to say anyway. But back in the straight razor heyday there were regrinding services that would take an 1830s wedge and make it more hollow and better than new. I'll put up some example pics when I get a chance.

 

[inferno]

for this particular one i've only buffed it to get rid of the pitting on the spine and the rust on the blade side.

 

[inferno]

and i will buff it more

but not much more. i want to keep the character that it has. i'm not into destroying nice things.

 

[stringer]

Ok @inferno here's some pics.

I suspect that these razors looked very similar out of the factory. But at some point a long time ago someone reground the bottom one to make it more hollow. But it's hard to say because older double shoulders were less uniform and more ragged than later ones.

But here's some others in my collection that I suspect started their lives much wedgier and were thinned down after a considerable amount of use.

Here's some more typical looking double shoulder grinds from the same time period for reference

 

[Rangen]

But here's some others in my collection that I suspect started their lives much wedgier and were thinned down after a considerable amount of use.

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Is that bottom one as heel-tall and toe-short as it looks in the pic? What are your plans for that one? I ask because I've had some odd-shaped razors come my way, and I always vacillate between aggressive reshaping and craven accommodation to the shape.

 

[Grayswandir]

What compound are you using on your buffer that gets rid of deep pitting? The only compound I'm familiar with that will get rid of some minor pitting is Formax Satin Glo.

 

[Grayswandir]

Ok @inferno here's some pics.

I suspect that these razors looked very similar out of the factory. But at some point a long time ago someone reground the bottom one to make it more hollow. But it's hard to say because older double shoulders were less uniform and more ragged than later ones.

View attachment 140933


But here's some others in my collection that I suspect started their lives much wedgier and were thinned down after a considerable amount of use.

View attachment 140934

Here's some more typical looking double shoulder grinds from the same time period for referenceView attachment 140935

I've got a few W&B razors that are hollow ground, some that are probably 1870-1891, but others that look like regrinds.

 

[stringer]

Is that bottom one as heel-tall and toe-short as it looks in the pic? What are your plans for that one? I ask because I've had some odd-shaped razors come my way, and I always vacillate between aggressive reshaping and craven accommodation to the shape.

Yeah. It's probably originally a +1" full wedge "For Barber's Use". I got it really cheap because it's obviously been used to hell. I will try and hone it the way it is eventually. I don't do too much cleanup. Just get them functional. Knock off active rust. Hone a bevel. But I have several in the To-Do pile and it takes much less time to bid on more project auctions than it does to actually complete the projects once they are in your hands.

 

[Grayswandir]

Yeah. It's probably originally a +1" full wedge "For Barber's Use". I got it really cheap because it's obviously been used to hell. I will try and hone it the way it is eventually. I don't do too much cleanup. Just get them functional. Knock off active rust. Hone a bevel. But I have several in the To-Do pile and it takes much less time to bid on more project auctions than it does to actually complete the projects once they are in your hands.

I have a really nice 17/16" W&B For Barbers Use, the one with the etching on the blade, not the one with "For Barbers Use" on the tang.

 

[stringer]

What compound are you using on your buffer that gets rid of deep pitting? The only compound I'm familiar with that will get rid of some minor pitting is Formax Satin Glo.

I don't have a buffer and I don't worry about pitting. I just hand sand any active rust. Hone a bevel. Rescale if necessary. But I buy way more than I'll ever get to cleaning up. I don't mean to. But I bid on ebay and then they keep sending them to me.

 

[Grayswandir]

I don't have a buffer and I don't worry about pitting. I just hand sand any active rust. Hone a bevel. Rescale if necessary. But I buy way more than I'll ever get to cleaning up. I don't mean to. But I bid on ebay and then they keep sending them to me.

I was asking Inferno, but I must have accidentally responded to one of your posts, sorry about that! I have the same problem, I keep buying razors and can't seem to stop. My intentions are different then yours, as I restore and sell vintage straights, but I still keep a few for myself. I'll be opening up an ebay store soon. I have enough razors to restore to last me over a year easy. I just acquired an amazing W.Greaves, it's very nice.

 

[stringer]

Here's one more I thought of that could be a regrind.

 

[Grayswandir]

That does look like a regrind.

 

[Rangen]

Buying eBay razors is a great way to learn new skills. I have to think of it like that, else I'd tear my hair out. I'm grinding away a stabilizer, because there is no way for this razor to have a proper heel otherwise. I suck at power tools (OK, a Dremel, the caramel macchiato of power tools), but I'm doing it anyway.

 

[inferno]

i just recieved a thomas turner "everlasting". its a wedge. maybe 5/8. has some work to do.