i'm thinking about trying shaving with razors again. so i dusted off the old iwasaki swedish steel kamisori and sharpened it up. and now its sharp as fuk. just like it was before i sharpened it difference being that i sharpened it on the shapton pro12k and also the SS 12k, instead of the spyderco UF. i noticed both the pro12k and the SS 12k was extremely "grabby" feeling. didn't like it one bit i can tell you that. didn't slide good at all on those stones. i think the pro12k was maybe a bit faster but not as sharp result as the SS 12k. the 12k pro is still a bit hazy if you look at it but the SS 12k was true mirror. and it got insanely/truly scary sharp. need to watch out now i guess. Both stones seems to clog up visually very fast but they still continue to cut well i noticed. my iwasaki is polished and not black anymore. because i like polished steel. ---------------------------- so what do you use when shaving and what stones do you have?