SOLD 283mm Toshihide wa-gyuto white 2

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$260 220

Got this second hand, so I don't know exactly who the maker is. Original owner said it cost $365. Last 3mm of tip broke off. Toshihide seems like a knife shop brand. Feels very close to honyaki in hand feel, edge feel, and board feedback... Harder than stamped monosteel, but not as hard as Sakai honyaki. Feels closer to honyaki than stamped monosteel, even compared to the harder stamped knife like a Gesshin Ginga. Feel 85% like other honyaki I've used and held. Something similar to Shihans 52100 monosteel I guess.

I see forge marks that are too deep and neat to be pitting, though there seems to be some darker rust marks in the left side near the heel part of the edge, and some in the right side blade face. I can't see any lamination line either, so I'm confident it's monosteel. Reactivity seem average.

Knife has a very slight concave blade face with a tiny taper to the edge. Grind starts about 1.5 cm above edge. Feels like a stiffer laser in hand. Not as dramatic a tape from spine to edge as with a laser like a ginga or shibata, but it still has a thin spine, and enough meat behind the edge to comfortably smash chop. Actually feels mostly ok doing that with this knife. Doesn't wedge too much, so that helps. Small microchips at the edge

Tip is not super duper thin, so it's more workhorses than max perfomance . . . But theres pretty good food release. Sharpened on jnat.

Feels much more nimble, precise, and controllable than the heiji 270mm gyuto I sold if that means anything.

Stiffness is greater than Ashi Ginga and less than heiji in equivalent length... Border between middleweight and lightweight.

Length heel to tip: 283mm
Heel to tip is 297mm. . .(maybe a sakai 300mm gyuto)
Weight: 230 g
Spine at heel: 2.2mm
Spine near tip: 1.5mm
Height at heel: 55mm
Handle: octagon ho wood, marbled buffalo ferrule
Balance point at kanji closer to tip

 

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Edge taking is very good, and it can catch hair. . . Again very very similar to honyaki edge feel that occurs from forging monosteel without heating to the higher temps required for forge welding. I would definitely recommend this to someone who wanted to try honyaki, given the similarities and lower price. . . Just is tougher and a bit softer than honyaki, and on the harder side of forged knives, but not the hardest. Microchips at certain parts from previous owner
Forge marks

 

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Drop to $220
Withdrawn

It's laminated. My mistake. Sneakiest laminating Iine I ever saw. Should have noticed it in one of the pictures. No forge weld line of different sheen is easily visible... Usually there are dots of black or something. Rikizai maybe? Or really good welding?...only other one that were similar were takashima kajiya and nagahiro

 

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Thinned and back up.

Not my best thinning job. Water cooled grinders ... Third time using them
Then to coarse stones..

 

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Drop to $220

I sorta refinished it... Pics soonish

 

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Pics of side

 

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204 g now

Tip and choil

Tip is flatter on right side...

 

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Bump $165

Some grind undulations on the right side still, and deeper marks near the heel . Will reinstall handle

 

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Bump 2 to $145

 

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Hike up to $200. Will drop again over time

200g
53.5 mm at heel

 

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https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1129415325

秋田県湯沢に有る工房、 佐藤晋一郎”利秀

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Finally found some history behind the toshihide knife. A knife maker in Akita with no online presence

Same choil style which is extremely uncommon, and similar handle. Different engraving style though.

Again I stand by that the steel felt so similar to excellent honyaki

 

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cool knife!

did you refinish it all by hand? I mean specifically this step here, with the vertical scratch pattern. I need to do something similar to retouch my Ashi while keeping the original belt finish as much as possible…

 

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Lol no I had a belt sander I was using from a good friend at their shop.

But! Sandpaper on a sanding block or rubber eraser for vertical lines works well. Also red scotchbrite to follow it up

 

[Choppin]

Lol no I had a belt sander I was using from a good friend at their shop.

But! Sandpaper on a sanding block or rubber eraser for vertical lines works well. Also red scotchbrite to follow it up

thanks! will give it a try

 

[nakiriknaifuwaifu]

@refcast has the best for sale posts
great dude, super deal
glws

 

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$260 220

Feels very close to honyaki in hand feel, edge feel, and board feedback... Harder than stamped monosteel, but not as hard as Sakai honyaki. Feels closer to honyaki than stamped monosteel, even compared to the harder stamped knife like a Gesshin Ginga. Feel 85% like other honyaki I've used and held. Something similar to Shihans 52100 monosteel I guess.

I did a double take when I read this then I realized it was written in 2021.
Forum influencers recently announced that there’s no such thing as Honyaki feedback or feel lmao.
I agree Shihan mono definitely has something extra there.