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Vaughan

Vaughan

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This may seem counter intuitive but I was wondering if anyone is offering carbon/iron clad stainless.

Obviously makers who do custom work can make whatever you want within reason but is this a standard offering by anyone?

I can foresee some people appreciating both the attributes of stainless edges (retention, less degradation from acidic food) and also liking carbon/iron cladding for it’s aesthetics and/or ease of thinning.
 
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MSicard Cutlery 255mm Z-Wear San-Mai Gyuto (Semi-Custom)
And when even Harbeer is jealous, you know it is quite an achievement!

But yeah, business-wise, don´t know, for the patina-lovers and knife-nerds. Quite a niche!
I personally definitely would find it interesting: For example an AEB-L core with a carbon clad that has maybe 0.5-1% carbon so it isn´t annoyingly reactive.
 
jaydee said:
carbon clad that has maybe 0.5-1% carbon so it isn´t annoyingly reactive.
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Unquenched the carbon in the cladding won't alter the reactivity that much....I don't think. And since even AEB-L gets quenched from about 1950f vs the 1475-1550f of most low alloy steels, you wouldn't want it to harden....the grain size at 1950f will look....hm, wait I have pictures for this

Carbon steel clad zwear plate quenched from 2000f....

Apparently that particular low alloy steel can harden from 2000f if plate quenched, I changed it up on the gyuto and didn't have any issues. The grain size still wasn't super great, but the cladding was a lot softer.
 

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jaydee said:
Stupid me! Meant to say 0.5-1% chromium!
I really like how gently and slowly such steels take a patina. 52100 being one example (with a little over 1% chromium)
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Unfortunately, I think the same applies. Unquenched it just couldn't be of any help to reactivity. And while I have no doubts that high carbon steels are less reactive than low carbon steels, any information on steels like 52100 being less reactive than say White #1 or 26c3 that I've seen has been purely anecdotal and the claim is not very well supported by the chemistry. All of the chrome goes into the cementite and therefore is not "free" to be enhancing corrosion resistance. This is a widely held misbelief that I myself held until I had done a fair amount of reading on the subject.
 
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