Does everyone agree with this tier list

[DreamSun]

The guy that made the list based on makers experience and capability as a black smith.
(Only listed makers that he had experience with their work)

 

[OwlWoodworks]

Does it come in English?

 

[blokey]

No, no way I'd put Takeshi Saji up there

 

[refcast]

Nah, blacksmithing is many things -- and can or cannot include some sharpening and straightening things too. As a personal thing for him, sure, as an absolute not necessarily. And what about deba or gyuto blacksmith specialists? Or wrought iron or banding or edge retention or sharpening feel -- or new age modern alloy steels. Is it just collectability and fan groups and well known makers? No stainless?

Only knife smiths? What about tool smiths who have special steels and irons who dabble in kitchen knives, or field blacksmiths? Only nationally known, advertised and dealer-network blacksmiths? Only living ones? What about the many unnamed who worked for wholesalers? Speed of production? Fineness of edge taking vs aggression? Ability for honyaki? How much do they know about edge geometry? Etc. I've never necessarily been impressed by the sharpness of honyaki over clad knives, and that extends to razors too that have been done in that manner.

If you ever tried fixing knives or going through the steps of how they're made, I mean, it's all work that's hard, and they can all do it. Plus I like mass produced japanese stainless -- it has its own purpose too

 

[refcast]

A bad google translation of it

 

[Rangen]

I tried Google Translate, and one of them came up as "Iizuka explains." Maybe "Iizuka" means "Clarissa?"

 

[blokey]

I tried Google Translate, and one of them came up as "Iizuka explains." Maybe "Iizuka" means "Clarissa?"

Tokifusa Lizuka, the man behind Shigefusa

 

[OwlWoodworks]

A bad google translation of it

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Thank you! very interesting list

 

[DreamSun]

Nah, blacksmithing is many things -- and can or cannot include some sharpening and straightening things too. As a personal thing for him, sure, as an absolute not necessarily. And what about deba or gyuto blacksmith specialists? Or wrought iron or banding or edge retention or sharpening feel -- or new age modern alloy steels. Is it just collectability and fan groups and well known makers? No stainless?

Only knife smiths? What about tool smiths who have special steels and irons who dabble in kitchen knives, or field blacksmiths? Only nationally known, advertised and dealer-network blacksmiths? Only living ones? What about the many unnamed who worked for wholesalers? Speed of production? Fineness of edge taking vs aggression? Ability for honyaki? How much do they know about edge geometry? Etc. I've never necessarily been impressed by the sharpness of honyaki over clad knives, and that extends to razors too that have been done in that manner.

If you ever tried fixing knives or going through the steps of how they're made, I mean, it's all work that's hard, and they can all do it. Plus I like mass produced japanese stainless -- it has its own purpose too

I’m sure it’s a very personal tier list just like most tier lists

 

[BillHanna]

I tried Google Translate, and one of them came up as "Iizuka explains." Maybe "Iizuka" means "Clarissa?"

I call my wife Clarissa when she’s “explaining” things to me.

 

[DreamSun]

A bad google translation of it

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You should be able to search their name in Japanese and find out the English version

 

[M1k3]

I tried Google Translate, and one of them came up as "Iizuka explains." Maybe "Iizuka" means "Clarissa?"

Yes. And she explains it all.

 

[Jville]

I think we would be remiss to not ask Chef Panko what he thinks about this list.

 

[Barmoley]

You should be able to search their name in Japanese and find out the English version

No need, any list like this is total and utter BS.

 

[jedy617]

Seems like a pretty obvious meme but regardless I'll say hobbies are much more fun when people like different things

 

[DreamSun]

No need, any list like this is total and utter BS.

Exactly, any kind of tire list is total bs every thing is subjective lol

 

[Barmoley]

Exactly, any kind of tire list is total bs every thing is subjective lol

Subjective lists like this are BS. Periodic table is an example of a good list.

 

[Qapla']

The guy that made the list based on makers experience and capability as a black smith.
(Only listed makers that he had experience with their work)

Who is "the guy", and why is this written in Mandarin?

 

[blokey]

Who is "the guy", and why is this written in Mandarin?

A Chinese vendor, 胡子

 

[Moooza]

If he is a vendor, I reckon he might have quite a few Saji knives in stock...

 

[DreamSun]

Who is "the guy", and why is this written in Mandarin?

Mandarin is just a spoken language which don't have its own writing system. All Chinese languages share a single writing system lol. Chinese Japanese even Korean and most people that follow Japanese makers can read the Kanji.

 

[Hassanbensober]

Toyama and Watanabe ranked on the same tier literally side by side is interesting

 

[M1k3]

Toyama and Watanabe ranked on the same tier literally side by side is interesting

 

[dehory]

All Chinese languages share a single writing system lol.

Not quite.

 

[mengwong]

顏色 = colour
颜色 = color

 

[Qapla']

Not quite.

This. For that matter, there are even variants of Mandarin that didn't use any type of Han script at all.

 

[big D]

I’m sure it’s a very personal tier list just like most tier lists

Exactly, any kind of tire list is total bs every thing is subjective lol

And then we have the title/question--

Does everyone agree with this tier list​

Wild guess ---> No (wink)

 

[Corradobrit1]

What's Japanese for 'Chelsea Miller'?

 

[WildBoar]

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[blokey]

This. For that matter, there are even variants of Mandarin that didn't use any type of Han script at all.

Interesting, I heard about it, they have preserved a more archaic North Western Mandarin