Nakiri Decisions: Heiji or TF direct

[Carl Kotte]

I was more worried about my issues with Denka - but forum folks helped me out with what to say to Gaku

So, what is the secret? What did you say to Gaku? Is the secret password ’hammer’?

 

[RockyBasel]

So, what is the secret? What did you say to Gaku? Is the secret password ’hammer’?

Member on the forum basically coached me on what to say about the grind, that I don’t want over-grind, what sort of pics to ask for, edge on table, choil shot, heel shot, I don’t want low spots, etc.

basically, it freaked Gaku out that he was dealing with a steel/knife nerd. So he said he would personally supervise the knife and finish it himself if needed.

That did the trick

 

[Carl Kotte]

What should I say if I want a thick knife with several overgrinds and low-spots? Please teach me the language of Gaku!

 

[RockyBasel]

Say nothing

 

[Carl Kotte]

The language of silence. Are you sure he will understand?

 

[RockyBasel]

Either silence, or you have to learn the Gaku dialect

 

[ModRQC]

You say: I want the grind that also serves as a Saki glass.

 

[Corradobrit1]

He does those with Swedish Carbon does he? or am I mixing things up?... I sure would love one. If anyone ever departs of one for 500$ ... Yeah, hence why I'm trying to forget.

B#2 if you're referring to Kato Ku

 

[M1k3]

Member on the forum basically coached me on what to say about the grind, that I don’t want over-grind, what sort of pics to ask for, edge on table, choil shot, heel shot, I don’t want low spots, etc.

basically, it freaked Gaku out that he was dealing with a steel/knife nerd. So he said he would personally supervise the knife and finish it himself if needed.

That did the trick

So if you just order without any special instructions, they'll work on your knife like this Archer hits the target?

 

[ModRQC]

B#2 if you're referring to Kato Ku

Knew I was mixing stuff... Hinoura father does the Swedish Carbon KU, does he?

 

[Corradobrit1]

Knew I was mixing stuff... Hinoura father does the Swedish Carbon KU, does he?

Shigefusa

 

[RockyBasel]

True dat

 

[ModRQC]

Godammit lolllz. But I don’t pay much attention to knives I can’t afford. My brain wants to die or fly.

Edit: Then the Shig is the one I want to see for sale at 500$...

 

[nakiriknaifuwaifu]

@ModRQC they use basically the same steel: Iwasaki's special Swedish carbon steel

 

[Corradobrit1]

Godammit lolllz. But I don’t pay much attention to knives I can’t afford. My brain wants to die or fly.

Edit: Then the Shig is the one I want to see for sale at 500$...

You're in luck the Shig Ku's are ugly ducklings of the Shiggy family. Get your's for way less than $300

 

[ModRQC]

In Canada I think it's Knifewear that holds these, and last time I checked the 165mm Santoku was like north of 400$... Don't want no rikiki smallish Santoku. Expect budget to be busted by any Gyuto if ever available again.

 

[nakiriknaifuwaifu]

You're in luck the Shig Ku's are ugly ducklings of the Shiggy family. Get your's for way less than $300

where are you finding one way less than 300 lol

 

[Corradobrit1]

where are you finding one way less than 300 lol

Japan

 

[M1k3]

Japan

Hahahaha! Unless you're in Japan already, this doesn't make it any cheaper.

 

[BillHanna]

Hahahaha! Unless you're in Japan already, this doesn't make it any cheaper.

Hey man. Just plan your family vacation around a trip to Japan, that’s all. Go buy everything local, and get some happy time too. Bring a hammer.

 

[M1k3]

Bring a hammer.

So I should visit Gaku?

 

[nakiriknaifuwaifu]

For those who own a migaki heiji in spicy swedish, how reactive is the blade and coating?

 

[Corradobrit1]

Hahahaha! Unless you're in Japan already, this doesn't make it any cheaper.

You have heard of shipping companies, right?

 

[Matus]

I was doing a custom order from Heiji for a friend of mine. One of the important details I learned in the process was, that at that time (nearly exactly a year ago) it was not possible to order knife taller than 50 mm. It might have changed since then, but if you want a tall nakiri, than you better ask about this explicitly.

 

[Qapla']

Does it have to be specifically those brands? What are you looking for about the nakiri's in question, and at what price point?

Here are some others that might be viable choices...

https://japanesechefsknife.com/coll...s/jck-natures-deep-impact-series-nakiri-165mm
https://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=91733
https://mtckitchen.com/sakon-ryuga-powdered-steel-nakiri-165mm-6-5-polished/
A TF Denka seems to be JPY 50600 for a 165mm. If you go too much higher than that in price, perhaps it might be time to start having discussions with local Western knife-makers?

If you're looking for super-tall ones, CKTG has a section of tall nakiri's, ranging all the way to 75mm in height.

Disclaimer: I am not a nakiri-user, so feel free to ignore everything I just wrote.

 

[RockyBasel]

For those who own a migaki heiji in spicy swedish, how reactive is the blade and coating?

SS is not reactive at all - I have the Gyuto, and it’s great

Carbon is a whole different story - stinks and reacts - but I love it nonetheless

 

[CiderBear]

@nakiriknaifuwaifu it's reactive.

 

[RockyBasel]

Nice battle scars on the Heiji!

is that the Japanese cord tree handle?

 

[nakiriknaifuwaifu]

Does it have to be specifically those brands? What are you looking for about the nakiri's in question, and at what price point?

Here are some others that might be viable choices...

https://japanesechefsknife.com/coll...s/jck-natures-deep-impact-series-nakiri-165mm
https://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=91733
https://mtckitchen.com/sakon-ryuga-powdered-steel-nakiri-165mm-6-5-polished/
A TF Denka seems to be JPY 50600 for a 165mm. If you go too much higher than that in price, perhaps it might be time to start having discussions with local Western knife-makers?

If you're looking for super-tall ones, CKTG has a section of tall nakiri's, ranging all the way to 75mm in height.

Disclaimer: I am not a nakiri-user, so feel free to ignore everything I just wrote.

@Qapla'

Denka is far out of budget, plus I already have one. Personally, I like dealing with makers rather than suppliers when possible, just ads to the fun for me.

@nakiriknaifuwaifu it's reactive.

Thank you @CiderBear That looks just like my ironclad Tojiro. I used an entire box of baking soda with that knife before I gave it away...
Also, fine finish hisamoto gyuto in the background?

Also, I was looking for something like 180g, 165mm x 65mm - 75mm, so if @Matus that rule still holds, Heiji will be a no go. 50mm height is rather short for a "maximum" height.

 

[Runner_up]

For those who own a migaki heiji in spicy swedish, how reactive is the blade and coating?

His fully reactive blades are like Shigefusa - pretty reactive.

I was doing a custom order from Heiji for a friend of mine. One of the important details I learned in the process was, that at that time (nearly exactly a year ago) it was not possible to order knife taller than 50 mm. It might have changed since then, but if you want a tall nakiri, than you better ask about this explicitly.

This is also what I was told last time I placed an order, near the beginning of this year.