Kindly recommend/help me choose a medium 240mm gyuto but with great cutting performance.

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  1. Style? Japanese

  2. Steel? - stainless / carbon clad in stainless

  3. Handle? - Japanese wa

  4. Grip? handle

  5. Length? 240mm

  6. Use cases? Im your typical home cook that prepares meals for the family usually on weekends

  7. Care? I use a whetstone, my set includes kings kds 1k/6k Naniwa t380 8000

  8. Budget? $250 - $400 max
Here are my other knives that I use:

Hinoura 240mm White 2 stainless - I love its sharpness out of the box but sometimes it tends to wedge.

Hiromoto 240mm Aogami Super - This is my most used knife as I feel that I dont have to be too careful in my approach, it doesnt chip even if as I used it on chicken bones. I also love the stiff blade. The Aogami Super has good edge retention but doesnt get as sharp as the Gengetsu or the Hinoura.

Gengetsu 240mm Stainless - This is my best cutting knife although I feel like I need to be careful with it because of the think delicate edge. (I may be wrong with that delicate edge though)

Victorinox 240mm Stainless - I Use this also as a workhorse or is someone wants to borrow a sharp knife in the household.

Ashi Ginga 180mm Swedish Stainless - I love the laser cutting ability but I feel that its too light that theres no feedback.

Im looking for a medium "workhorse" gyuto around 160 - 200 grams if possible but Im open to heavier weight as long as it has good cutting performance.

Here are the knives I'm considering but you are more than welcome to give recommendations outside this list.

WAKUI WHITE 2
https://knivesandstones.us/collecti...hite-2-stainless-clad-kurouchi-nashiji-finish
TANAKA BLUE 2
https://knivesandstones.us/collecti...ka-blue-2-nashiji-line-knife-gyuto-210mm-lite
KONOSUKE FUKUSHIMA (NIHEI) SLD
https://www.toshoknifearts.com/prod...-gyuto-240mm-khii-laurel-handle-mirror-finishhttps://carbonknifeco.com/collections/nihei-knives/products/nihei-sld-nashiji-gyuto-240mm

Im partial to Sanjo knives but am always open to suggestions. Ive always wanted to try a Yoshikane but I dont know if it will fit my budget. Theres a SLD Damascus at epic edge but its going for more than $500.Same goes for Watanabe or Toyama but it seems like they're almost impossible to find nowadays.
 

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I always recommend Wakui :) This time I'm not going to. It's a great all arounder, but not too weighty. You've got your bases covered with what you've got already with the Hinoura, Hiromoto, and Gengetsu. All are 240 gyutos, so I'm not sure what a Wakui or a Tanaka would really add (not that that's a reason to not get one around these parts!).
You mentioned you wanted a workhorse. I'd suggest talking to @Kippington. His workhorses are great performers and he's a really nice guy to work with.
Otherwise, I just picked up a Masahi that's a lot of fun. Profile takes a bit of getting used to (high tip and loooooong flat spot), but it's a heavy knife with a thin edge. Whether or not it's a true "workhorse" is up for debate (I tend to think of "workhorse" as a stout grind with maximum food release; others think of "workhorse" as a do-it-all knife).
 
McMan said:
I always recommend Wakui :) This time I'm not going to. It's a great all arounder, but not too weighty. You've got your bases covered with what you've got already with the Hinoura, Hiromoto, and Gengetsu. All are 240 gyutos, so I'm not sure what a Wakui or a Tanaka would really add (not that that's a reason to not get one around these parts!).
You mentioned you wanted a workhorse. I'd suggest talking to @Kippington. His workhorses are great performers and he's a really nice guy to work with.
Otherwise, I just picked up a Masahi that's a lot of fun. Profile takes a bit of getting used to (high tip and loooooong flat spot), but it's a heavy knife with a thin edge. Whether or not it's a true "workhorse" is up for debate (I tend to think of "workhorse" as a stout grind with maximum food release; others think of "workhorse" as a do-it-all knife).
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Edit: Just saw that you're in the Philippines. Definitely talk to Kippington! He's not that far away :)
 
McMan said:
I always recommend Wakui :) This time I'm not going to. It's a great all arounder, but not too weighty. You've got your bases covered with what you've got already with the Hinoura, Hiromoto, and Gengetsu. All are 240 gyutos, so I'm not sure what a Wakui or a Tanaka would really add (not that that's a reason to not get one around these parts!).
You mentioned you wanted a workhorse. I'd suggest talking to @Kippington. His workhorses are great performers and he's a really nice guy to work with.
Otherwise, I just picked up a Masahi that's a lot of fun. Profile takes a bit of getting used to (high tip and loooooong flat spot), but it's a heavy knife with a thin edge. Whether or not it's a true "workhorse" is up for debate (I tend to think of "workhorse" as a stout grind with maximum food release; others think of "workhorse" as a do-it-all knife).
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Which masahi did you get?
 
Thank you
McMan said:
The old "torpedo" one in SLD. Pretty fun knife.
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Is this the knife you're refering to?
https://www.aframestokyo.com/masashi-wa-gyuto-semimirror-finish-240mm-sld-chef-kn240.html

Thats also in my shortlist and yes indeed it looks like a torpedo but seeing that blademsith is a Yoshikane apprentice then he must know what he is doing. The 218g weight is just within the weight range im looking for.

Are there any other Yoshikane blademsith apprentices that are worth considering?
 
Tanaka in blue 2 is incredible for the price, especially with that gorgeous brass capped handle it sports at Knives And Stones. Takes an aggressive edge with very little time on the stones, edge retention is excellent as well
 
Hamesjo said:
Tanaka in blue 2 is incredible for the price, especially with that gorgeous brass capped handle it sports at Knives And Stones. Takes an aggressive edge with very little time on the stones, edge retention is excellent as well
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Thats actually my 1st choice... Im giving myself 1 week to finalize my decision.

Do you have feedback re the Tanaka Ginsan? It also comes fully recommended in the forums.
 
jlm46 said:
Thank you

Is this the knife you're refering to?
https://www.aframestokyo.com/masashi-wa-gyuto-semimirror-finish-240mm-sld-chef-kn240.html

Thats also in my shortlist and yes indeed it looks like a torpedo but seeing that blademsith is a Yoshikane apprentice then he must know what he is doing. The 218g weight is just within the weight range im looking for.

Are there any other Yoshikane blademsith apprentices that are worth considering?
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That's the one. There's also a newer version with a different profile:
https://www.aframestokyo.com/masashi-wa-gyuto-240mm-sld-steel-blade-chef-kn240.html
According to the specs on Aframes, for a 240 the old version weighs ~6.9oz, new version weighs ~5.2oz. Looks like profile isn't the only thing that changed...
 
McMan said:
That's the one. There's also a newer version with a different profile:
https://www.aframestokyo.com/masashi-wa-gyuto-240mm-sld-steel-blade-chef-kn240.html
According to the specs on Aframes, for a 240 the old version weighs ~6.9oz, new version weighs ~5.2oz. Looks like profile isn't the only thing that changed...
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It does look a bit better but the big reduction in weight almost 50 grams is a big departure and will surely change the cutting feel. Must have placed more emphasis on cutting performance than heft.
 
+1 on the vote for masashi. Super fun knife that cuts excellent, has a ton of character and is overall going to be something a little different than what you already have. Also Kippington is great!
 
jlm46 said:
Thats actually my 1st choice... Im giving myself 1 week to finalize my decision.

Do you have feedback re the Tanaka Ginsan? It also comes fully recommended in the forums.
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I've never handled the ginsan version but I've read good things about it. In my limited experience with ginsan I've really enjoyed it's edge-taking abilities and I trust the word on the street that Tanaka treats it with respect.
 
jlm46 said:
Thats actually my 1st choice... Im giving myself 1 week to finalize my decision.

Do you have feedback re the Tanaka Ginsan? It also comes fully recommended in the forums.
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Tanaka Nashiji has no distal taper. May be a deal breaker for you.
 
jlm46 said:
... Do you have feedback re the Tanaka Ginsan? It also comes fully recommended in the forums.
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I have it in 240mm from K&S. Please note that I am no specialist in any way when it comes to knives, but I have a few and I sharpen them most of the time with decent results. That being said, I am very happy with my purchase. Just minutes ago I picked up my largest carrot and did the same test as in this video. I think it was not bad :). This is the original edge, I just touched it up a few times. I remembered now that when I received it exactly the carrot cutting was the thing that especially amazed me in the most positive. Cannot say anything about sharpening, sorry.

BTW, I saw you refer to K&S USA site. Since you are in Manila may be the australian shop of K&S will be a better choice for you.

Good luck and stay safe!
 
ITKKF said:
I have it in 240mm from K&S. Please note that I am no specialist in any way when it comes to knives, but I have a few and I sharpen them most of the time with decent results. That being said, I am very happy with my purchase. Just minutes ago I picked up my largest carrot and did the same test as in this video. I think it was not bad :). This is the original edge, I just touched it up a few times. I remembered now that when I received it exactly the carrot cutting was the thing that especially amazed me in the most positive. Cannot say anything about sharpening, sorry.

BTW, I saw you refer to K&S USA site. Since you are in Manila may be the australian shop of K&S will be a better choice for you.

Good luck and stay safe!
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Yes thank you the Australian shop has more choices indeed:)
 
TSF415 said:
I reached out to yoshihiro about their Masashi in blue#2. And they said their 240mm weighs 8.2oz.
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Wow thats a substantial weight at 232 grams...

My Hiromoto weights in at 235g and I really appreciate the heft.
 
Im now leaning towards a Wakui but the Nihei Sld is also pulling me....

Choices choices... The Wakui for the heft and the Sld just because hs a yoshikane apprentice :)
 
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