mazaki knives

[daveb]

Where did you get those handles?

Likely from the handle (and saya) guy.

 

[JoBone]

Here’s a look at a couple 180s in Aogami 2

 

[GorillaGrunt]

Holy bleep I want the bleep out of that bleeping gyuto

 

[Gregmega]

Here’s a look at a couple 180s in Aogami 2

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Boy that 180 petty would really round out my set.

 

[McMan]

Alright… or, sorry… Can we map out the Maz progression?
How many generations are there (~what’s the timeline)? Characteristics? What are differences between vendors?

Is this a rough sketch? Or am I way off?
1.0, JNS bullnose, charcoal quench, (few reports of bizarre HT)
2.0, Pointy version, no more charcoal quench, more vendors
3.0, Maz at multiple vendors, distal taper differs (inconsistent?), HT consistent
4.0, Knives and Stones new profile

Am I wrong w/ characteristics/timeline? I feel like I missed a multiple iterations…

I’ve got one Maz (initial version from JNS, bullnose, bought on sale since it was rusted). Other than that, I’ve stayed off the train. That’s my only experience with Maz. I’ve been holding off this whole time because profile/etc. seemed to constantly be changing. Maybe still is. Now that Maz seem to be regulars on BST, I need to finally figure out what the differences are…

 

[user 16756]

even the most recent KNS version looks slightly different than the one I got late last year @McMan they seem to get flatter each time.

I decided not to get one out of the latest batch even though I would like a new Ku with a black horn instead of the blond one I have and tbh I kind of regret that.

 

[GorillaGrunt]

I think bullnose was the first batch and charcoal quench with a pointier profile was the second or third. The stainless, which afaik was the only stainless batch, had a bullnose profile and came out in the middle of the first few batches at JNS. I also think there were some kurouchi and migaki batches at Cleancut and KnS and maybe Carbon with a more typical Sanjo gyuto profile before the pointier, tall KS looking ones.

Then there was the Henckels profile batch at JNS before the pointy one and the less said about that the better.

Maybe @preizzo or someone could write a history like @Omega did with Fujiyama? I'm about half joking here

 

[preizzo]

I think bullnose was the first batch and charcoal quench with a pointier profile was the second or third. The stainless, which afaik was the only stainless batch, had a bullnose profile and came out in the middle of the first few batches at JNS. I also think there were some kurouchi and migaki batches at Cleancut and KnS and maybe Carbon with a more typical Sanjo gyuto profile before the pointier, tall KS looking ones.

Then there was the Henckels profile batch at JNS before the pointy one and the less said about that the better.

Maybe @preizzo or someone could write a history like @Omega did with Fujiyama? I'm about half joking here

1
Jns first mazaki ever was bullnose with wide bevel , almost like a heiji
2
Jns second generation had the same profile but different grind and a bit more of distal taper
3
Ginsanko line from jns , clean cut bullnose ,razor sharp kurouchi line ,cktg kurouchi and migaki line
4
Generation 3 from jns ,more pointy and thinner at the spine (almost like KS )
5
New line from cleancut and also k&s start to sell them (same knives for both vendor )
6
New kurouchi line from yoshihiro , clean cut ,k&s,HK
7
Jns BBQ blade with higher tip
8
Craig migaki and kurouchi same as clean cut (thick spine out the handle and not so dramatic taper )
9
Damascus,him Sanmai etc...
10
10 more different vendor are carrying mazaki
11
New year and new profile

 

[preizzo]

1
Jns first mazaki ever was bullnose with wide bevel , almost like a heiji
2
Jns second generation had the same profile but different grind and a bit more of distal taper
3
Ginsanko line from jns , clean cut bullnose ,razor sharp kurouchi line ,cktg kurouchi and migaki line
4
Generation 3 from jns ,more pointy and thinner at the spine (almost like KS )
5
New line from cleancut and also k&s start to sell them (same knives for both vendor )
6
New kurouchi line from yoshihiro , clean cut ,k&s,HK
7
Jns BBQ blade with higher tip
8
Craig migaki and kurouchi same as clean cut (thick spine out the handle and not so dramatic taper )
9
Damascus,him Sanmai etc...
10
10 more different vendor are carrying mazaki
11
New year and new profile

There may be some more variation to mention like the single bevel stainlessl and carbon ,the special petty with high tip ,the big nakiri and santoku etc....

 

[preizzo]

There may be some more variation to mention like the single bevel stainlessl and carbon ,the special petty with high tip ,the big nakiri and santoku etc....

Over 3 years and I had the chance to try all of the different shapes and grind and finishes except for the ****ing ginsanko gyuto that i am still looking to buy since two years ago
I roughly went through 80/90 mazakis over this time

 

[GorillaGrunt]

How many ginsan knives are out there? Does anyone else have a 270 stainless suji or was it only one or two examples of each knife?

 

[preizzo]

How many ginsan knives are out there? Does anyone else have a 270 stainless suji or was it only one or two examples of each knife?

Sure was not only few ,but who knows
Definitely it s not me having one

 

[Luuuukeeeeeeee]

Over 3 years and I had the chance to try all of the different shapes and grind and finishes except for the ****ing ginsanko gyuto that i am still looking to buy since two years ago
I roughly went through 80/90 mazakis over this time

Sooo. Which 'version' is your favourite?

 

[Bcos17]

Don't forget the stainless clad Mazaki's that were available at Razor-sharp in Singapore.

 

[preizzo]

Don't forget the stainless clad Mazaki's that were available at Razor-sharp in Singapore.

 

[preizzo]

Sooo. Which 'version' is your favourite?

The second generation from cleancut.
That was in my opinion the best line of mazaki

 

[Luuuukeeeeeeee]

The second generation from cleancut.
That was in my opinion the best line of mazaki

jay, that might be the one i have

 

[preizzo]

jay, that might be the one i have

Nice ,please share here some photos
Mazaki would be honoured

 

[Lpn562]

 

[Vancouversam]

Do you guys prefer new or old generation profile ?

 

[BillHanna]

Left.

 

[TSF415]

I was a big fan of the new profile when I saw it but seeing them next to each other I’d take the old profile every time.

 

[Duukt]

Mine seems to be in between those two. Not as pointy as the Dec 2020 profile but steeper edge line compared to the older model there.

 

[Bigbbaillie]

Haven't tried the new profile but off looks alone it seems too triangular.

 

[dafox]

Left, mine is somewhere in the middle.

 

[user 16756]

personally I prefer the flatter, pointier current style.

the knives in my house as a child were sabs tho.

 

[RevJoe]

which generation is this: Mazaki w2 Nashiji petty 90mm
I love it but need another longer one.

 

[RevJoe]

The KU. They're really special right now. Pictures for consideration.
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I like that. In the market for a 210mm gyuto and a 130-150mm petty

 

[IsoJ]

Left

 

[matchplay18]

These knifes are workhorses