Recommendation Japanese Honesuki or W Deba

[Charon]

I'm looking to get a knife to break down poultry and once in a blue moon a fish or two.
There was a template for this if I remember correctly I just can't find it.
Shot version
WesternDeba / Honesuki ( work reasonably well for both poultry and fish)
max budget is 180$
150-180mm
wa or yo
carbon or stainless ( no vg10, aus or other abrasive resistant steels)
buying in person in Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka( Sakai) or online w delivery in Japan.

Long Version
In a few months I will probably fly to Japan and I would love to know that to get.
There are a few knives I'm looking at, ease of sharpness and a resonable price are my priorities.

So far I've narrowed my search to:
Misono no.150 Swedish Steel 165mm W Deba (carbon)
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/meicho3/7-0293-1301/
Misono no. 141 Swedish Steel 145mm Honesuki (carbon)
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/webbymono/50103576/

"MOTOKANE" Deba Kurouchi (Butcher Knife) Aogami No.1 Laminated Steel, 150mm
https://honmamon-japan.com/products...tcher-knife-aogami-no-1-laminated-steel-150mm
Ashi Hamono Ginga Swedish Stainless Wa-Honesuki 150 mm
https://www.ebay.de/itm/38453025031...rentrq:7768e6171850a768e9b5ca75fffc1044|iid:1Does anyone know if BluewayJapan has a rakuten store? Ebay seems quite overpriced

 

[Lurkernomore]

I’d recommend just going to a good knife shop and picking from what they have. Tracking down something you found on the internet in Japan does not work at all. In Sakai I’d look at tohji, in Kyoto I’d go to Aritsugu and kikuichimonji, in Osaka I’d try douguyasuji. There’s good shops on kappabashi and Tsukiji outer market in Tokyo as well. The important part is to stop looking and comparing once you got something.

 

[Jovidah]

Are you looking to get 2 knives, or one knife to do both jobs? And are you going to do it often enough that you really intend to max your budget, or are you rahter looking for something affordable just to try it out?
From a purely utilitarian perspective there's plenty of 30 euro western knives that could do both jobs great. I don't do fish often enough to justify a fancy knife for it and I get by just fine with a western fillet knife.
When it comes to honesukis I'm partial to the more affordable western handled stuff; it's just more practical IMO.

 

[GQsm]

Agree with both above.
I have a deba that I love and a honesuki that I like, I have them for their specific jobs and would not use them for other tasks by choice. They are very different imo.
Go into the shop, you might find you can buy both types of knife for less than you thought. For example I bought a single bevel Aji Deba that must have cost me under £€$ 50. Got it as a novelty and to try out changing the Kurouchi finish to a polish, but it is white #2, sharpens up nicely and while not a looker, it performs as well as other knives I have 3 x the price.

 

[Charon]

these are all good points.
I will bookmark the shops@Lurkernomore mentioned and I will see what I find when I get there.
@Jovidah I too find the western handles more practical, especially for butchery, I do have to see what steel I can find that's easy to sharpen.

I forgot about Aji Debas. There was another post about my dileme. Some people mentioned using a think petty, maybe a double bevel ajikiri.

 

[Benuser]

I'm looking to get a knife to break down poultry and once in a blue moon a fish or two.
There was a template for this if I remember correctly I just can't find it.
Shot version
WesternDeba / Honesuki ( work reasonably well for both poultry and fish)
max budget is 180$
150-180mm
wa or yo
carbon or stainless ( no vg10, aus or other abrasive resistant steels)
buying in person in Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka( Sakai) or online w delivery in Japan.

Long Version
In a few months I will probably fly to Japan and I would love to know that to get.
There are a few knives I'm looking at, ease of sharpness and a resonable price are my priorities.

So far I've narrowed my search to:
Misono no.150 Swedish Steel 165mm W Deba (carbon)
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/meicho3/7-0293-1301/
Misono no. 141 Swedish Steel 145mm Honesuki (carbon)
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/webbymono/50103576/
"MOTOKANE" Deba Kurouchi (Butcher Knife) Aogami No.1 Laminated Steel, 150mm
https://honmamon-japan.com/products...tcher-knife-aogami-no-1-laminated-steel-150mm
Ashi Hamono Ginga Swedish Stainless Wa-Honesuki 150 mm
https://www.ebay.de/itm/38453025031...rentrq:7768e6171850a768e9b5ca75fffc1044|iid:1Does anyone know if BluewayJapan has a rakuten store? Ebay seems quite overpriced

There is also a 165 Misono Swedish Carbon honesuki.

 

[blokey]

I thought BluewayJapan got the cheapest Ashoka around since they don’t take order directly anymore…

 

[Charon]

I thought BluewayJapan got the cheapest Ashoka around since they don’t take order directly anymore…

I dont know what a ashoka is

 

[blokey]

I dont know what a ashoka is

Ashi, stupid autocorrect…